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America is kinda like the big dumb bully on the playground who has a little friend who likes to start shite. Little friend has plenty of sense but is paranoid as hell and constantly picking fights just to entertain himself by watching his big dumb friend eventually get punch drunk and go broke.


The Jews run the world and we are their muscle, that is all there is to it.






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Now comes word the President Rouhani is planning on taking a Jewish Iranian parliament member to the U.N. with him. Bibi will be fit to be tied by the time he leaves New York.

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I'll bet Bibi really misses Ahmadinejad these days.

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"But in general I can tell you that any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime the Nazis created towards the Jews, is reprehensible and condemnable," he said, according to CNN's translation of his comments, during a visit to New York to address the United Nations General Assembly. . . . . .

"Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews we condemn," Rouhani told CNN. "The taking of human life is contemptible. It makes no difference if that life is Jewish life, Christian or Muslim. For us it is the same."

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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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trackfan


Why don't you just man up and admit your an
Anti-Semite instead of copy and pasting links to
a known JEW Hater and trying to pass it off as main stream news.






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TigerSinceBirth4Life
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Anti israel =/= anti semite





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Poodlebrain
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We had the temerity to live outside of our homeland for several years and the naivety to think we could return to Palestine for a summer vacation.
Doesn't Israel have the right to determine requirements for residency within its borders? Israel considers Jerusalem to be part of Israel not Palestine. If these people were not residents of the territory when Israel captured or annexed it, then their status must be determined in accordance with Israeli laws.

Suppose these people had been living at a known terrorist training camp for all those years, would you suggest that Israel has an obligation to allow them to return? I realize that is the most extreme example in justification for excluding people from entering, but what is a reasonable set of circumstances that exclusion is justified? If you say there are no circumstances then you have unrealistic expectations. The article you quoted is silent as to what these people were doing for the "several years" they were abroad. So it is impossible to determine from the article whether Israel's actions are reasonable or not.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Perhaps this Iranian leader will recognize Israel's right to live in peace in the family of nations. Bibi can recognize a Palestinian homeland on the West bank.





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trackfan
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Doesn't Israel have the right to determine requirements for residency within its borders? Israel considers Jerusalem to be part of Israel not Palestine. If these people were not residents of the territory when Israel captured or annexed it, then their status must be determined in accordance with Israeli laws

But they were residents when they captured it, and that's the point. Furthermore, Jews worldwide who have never lived in the Mideast are granted instant on demand. Do you not see a problem with a nation that portends to be a democracy using religion to determine what a person's rights are? Do you have any idea of the number of Arabs who Israel routinely strips of citizenship and residency rights on an annual basis for some of the most trivial and contrived offenses?

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Suppose these people had been living at a known terrorist training camp for all those years, would you suggest that Israel has an obligation to allow them to return? I realize that is the most extreme example in justification for excluding people from entering, but what is a reasonable set of circumstances that exclusion is justified? If you say there are no circumstances then you have unrealistic expectations. The article you quoted is silent as to what these people were doing for the "several years" they were abroad. So it is impossible to determine from the article whether Israel's actions are reasonable or not.

Come on man. It's an incontrovertible fact that these decisions by the Israeli government are religiously motivated. Don't you know that Israel has over 30 laws on its books that preferecne Jews over Gentiles. Zionism means different things to different people, but to the hardliners who are currently running the government, it means Jewish supremacy and subjugation of Gentiles. At least Israelis like Yitzhak Rabin, Menachem Begin, Meir Kahane and Benny Morris were honest about this fact. They didn't try to use the self-defense or terrorism argument to justify acts like the Deir Yassin massacre, rather they said the it was necessary to rid the area of Gentiles prior to the creation of Israel, otherwise Arabs would have remained the majority and it would have been impossible to create a Jewish state. Here's an excerpt from Yitzhak Rabin's biography:

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Alon repeated his question: "What is to be done with the population?" BG waved his hand in a gesture, which said: Drive them out! … I agreed that it was essential to drive the inhabitants. out."

Here's and excerpt from Benny Morris' book Operation Dani and the Palestinian Exodus from Lydda and Ramle in 1948:

"At 13.30 hours on 12 July [1948]… Lieutenant-Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, operation Dani head Operation, issued the following order: ’1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to age. They should be directed to Beit Nabala,… Implement Immediately.’ A similar order was issued at the same time to the Kiryati Brigade concerning the inhabitants of the neighboring town of Ramle, occupied by Kiryati troops that morning… On 12 and 13 July, the Yaftah brigades carried out their orders, expelling the 50-60,000 remaining inhabitants of and refugees camped in and around the two towns….

About noon on 13 July, Operation Dani HQ informed IDF General Staff/Operations: ‘Lydda police fort has been captured. [The troops] are busy expelling the inhabitants…. Lydda’s inhabitants were forced to walk eastward to the Arab legion lines; many of Ramle’s inhabitants were ferried in trucks or buses. Clogging the roads… the tens of thousands of refugees marched, gradually shedding their worldly goods along the way. It was a hot summer day. The Arab chroniclers, such as Sheikh Muhammed Nimr al Khatib, claimed that hundreds of children died in the march, from dehydration and disease. One Israeli witness described the spoor: the refugee column ‘to begin with [jettisoned] utensils and furniture and, in the end, bodies of men, women, and children."






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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God bless Rabbi Kahane. I read all his books.





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Bibi can recognize a Palestinian homeland on the West bank.

Do you believe that will ever happen? Now Bibi is bulldozing Palestinian homes in the Jordan River Valley.

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God bless Rabbi Kahane. I read all his books.

He didn't talk with a forked tongue like Bibi does, I have to give him credit for that.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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No Kahane told it as it was. Bibi is a politician. but Bibi stands up for Israel as he should. God knows no one else would





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The Jews run the world and we are their muscle, that is all there is to it.



You are exposing too much of your inner retarded mental capacity. Did you read the free copy of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" available in your new Ford vehicle?






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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The Jews run the world? How did I miss out and end up on TD? some people here don;t like Israel because Jews aren't supposed to fight back. Jews can't be the muscle. or can we? Well not me





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trackfan
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No Kahane told it as it was. Bibi is a politician. but Bibi stands up for Israel as he should. God knows no one else would

But you can't negotiate with someone like Bibi, who talks like Kahane in private when he doesn't think anyone is listening but talks like Shulamit Aloni in public.






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doubleb
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But you can't negotiate with someone like Bibi, who talks like Kahane in private when he doesn't think anyone is listening but talks like Shulamit Aloni in public.


But you can negotiate with kahane, you've told us all that unless of course the peacenik that he is refuses to meet with you.

But I guess you'll tell us it's because we violated the 1981 treaty that we signed while Iran had guns to the heads of our hostages right?






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Poodlebrain
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But they were residents when they captured it, and that's the point.
The facts presented are limited, and they are insufficient to make a determination in the specific case.
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Do you not see a problem with a nation that portends to be a democracy using religion to determine what a person's rights are?
Don't the citizens of Israel have the right to determine who is entitled to citizenship or residency within Israel? Applying that right they can use any qualifiers and/or disqualifiers they choose. I don't have to like it but democracies have just as much right to adopt objectionable policies as non-democracies. Why does Israel have less right to use religion to determine individual rights than Saudi Arabia? What are the rights of non-Muslims to visit Mecca?






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trackfan
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Don't the citizens of Israel have the right to determine who is entitled to citizenship or residency within Israel? Applying that right they can use any qualifiers and/or disqualifiers they choose. I don't have to like it but democracies have just as much right to adopt objectionable policies as non-democracies. Why does Israel have less right to use religion to determine individual rights than Saudi Arabia? What are the rights of non-Muslims to visit Mecca?

It's telling that you would compare Israel to Saudi Arabia. No one pretends that Saudi Arabia is a democracy and it doesn't claim to be one. Saudi Arabia is a naked theocracy, and no one has ever tried to say otherwise.

However, Israel claims to be a democracy and that's the justification people in this country use to give it special treatment. Democracy means government of "the people", not government of "some of the people". Governments of some of the people aren't democracies. In South Africa they called it apartheid. In pre-civil rights America, they called it Jim Crow. Israel can call itself a Jewish state, but it can't call itself a democracy as long as it employs such disciminatory policies. Here's how Israel's Speaker of the Knesset put:

"Between the Jordan and the Mediterranean there is no longer a clear Jewish majority. And so, fellow citizens, it is not possible to keep the whole thing without paying a price. We cannot keep a Palestinian majority under an Israeli boot and at the same time think ourselves the only democracy in the Middle East. There cannot be democracy without equal rights for all who live here, Arab as well as Jew. We cannot keep the territories and preserve a Jewish majority in the world's only Jewish state - not by means that are humane and moral and Jewish.

Do you want the greater land of Israel? No problem. Abandon democracy. Let's institute an efficient system of racial separation here, with prison camps and detention villages.

Do you want a Jewish majority? No problem. Either put the Arabs on railway cars, buses, camels and donkeys and expel them en masse - or separate ourselves from them absolutely, without tricks and gimmicks. There is no middle path. We must remove all the settlements - all of them - and draw an internationally recognised border between the Jewish national home and the Palestinian national home. The Jewish law of return will apply only within our national home, and their right of return will apply only within the borders of the Palestinian state.

Do you want democracy? No problem. Either abandon the greater land of Israel, to the last settlement and outpost, or give full citizenship and voting rights to everyone, including Arabs. The result, of course, will be that those who did not want a Palestinian state alongside us will have one in our midst, via the ballot box."

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CITWTT
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How many Jews will be left alive after the Palestinians declare peace given their terms for that to be achieved?





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JEAUXBLEAUX
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They have promised to push the Jews into the sea for along time. Thats your answer,





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