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re: House GOP pissed at Ted Cruz, call him "leader of a secret cabal of leftists"


you know what would be nice?

I hope it gets to the point where we're seeing Taiwanese type brawls in the Senate/House. Wherever they may be.

I hope it gets to the point where these guys aren't holding their tongues anymore and people start throwing chairs and other objects around. At least I would feel people were sincere about their belief system.






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Cruz is right on this. It's a fight not worth having until the republicans gain control.





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"It is disappointing to see that Wendy Davis has more balls than Ted Cruz," i


this doesnt even make any fricking sense.

this whole article doesnt even make any fricking sense.

Just another hit piece from our resident OfA paid shill.






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Cruz is right on this.


It's more than just Cruz. The unions don't want this, businesses don't want this, the people don't want this.

Obama is the one out of touch, not Ted Cruz.






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Obama is the one out of touch, not Ted Cruz.

That's why this can all back fire on Reid and the democrats... they think they can control the narrative but it can't hold up because most people don't want this shite sandwich called Obamacare.






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re: House GOP pissed at Ted Cruz, call him "leader of a secret cabal of leftists"


so wait. THIS is the quote?
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"Harry Reid will no doubt try to strip the defund language from the continuing resolution, and right now he likely has the votes to do so," Cruz said in a statement. "At that point, House Republicans must stand firm, hold their ground, and continue to listen to the American people."


that becomes

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"Cruz is the leader of a secret cabal of leftists that are seeking control of the conservative movement," quipped one senior House Republican leadership source. "Their aim is to force the party to take on suicidal missions to destroy the movement from within."

?

this is insane

this is a hit piece by rank and file, neo-con GOP members to shite on small government legislators

they scared...very scared






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"Harry Reid will no doubt try to strip the defund language from the continuing resolution, and right now he likely has the votes to do so," Cruz said in a statement.


This is correct--the Senate will certainly strip the defund language from a House bill containing it. But all that does is leave each chamber with a different version of the bill, which happens most of the time anyway.

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"At that point, House Republicans must stand firm, hold their ground, and continue to listen to the American people."


That's not a concession of defeat. That's a statement to the House that, once the Senate does what everyone already knows it's going to do, they need to insist that the defund language remain in whatever comes out of the conference committee.

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"Cruz officially jumped the shark this week," said one GOP operative allied with House leadership , who, like others, requested anonymity to speak critically about fellow Republicans.
(emphasis added)

And what has the House leadership position been on including defunding language? Opposition thereto, that's what. So of course they're going to take Cruz's words out of context. Duh!






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Cruz is right on this. It's a fight not worth having until the republicans gain control.



Obviously your statement is true.

The turmoil is over the fact that Cruz has been, by far, the primary instigator for picking the hopeless fight. No skin off his ass, he's not up for reelection until 2018. All those House republicans are up in 2014. And unlike Cruz, most are not from sure-thing districts. Cruz is all about one thing - Cruz.






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At that point, House Republicans must stand firm, hold their ground, and continue to listen to the American people.

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That's not a concession of defeat.

exactly

this shite is hilarious







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All those House republicans are up in 2014. And unlike Cruz, most are not from sure-thing districts. Cruz is all about one thing - Cruz.


This helps the republicans because Americans hate Obamacare... Republicans are standing up for the American people while the democrats are shitting on them by continuing to support Obamacare.






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Cruz has inadvertently done more than any other lawmaker to avert a government shutdown.
Inadvertently?
That seems an incredibly stupid presumption.






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This helps the republicans


False.

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Americans hate Obamacare


True.

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Republicans are standing up for the American people


They have already done this FORTY times via House votes for either full or partial repeal of Obamacare. The Republican House is on record repeatedly for doing everything possible to go on record with their opposition to Obamacare. But as long as Harry Reid is the traffic cop over in the Senate, nothing has, or ever will, come of such actions. The symbolism becomes meaningless after about the 10th repeal vote.

Everything on Obamacare has been going the Republicans way. The legislation is showing serious signs of crumbling under its own weight well before much of the program has even been put in place. Polls show the American people are more opposed to Obamacare than ever before. The unions are pissed about it now. The Dems have been showing their very first signs of internal strife in recent weeks, between Syria and Obamacare. Obama's favorable ratings are cratering. Everything has been going the Republicans way.

Leave Obamacare alone another 14 months and watch the voters wretch and puke all the way to the ballot box and vote Republican in 2014. The program is already disintegrating in front of everyone's eyes. Let it play out. They're already on record to repeal it. There's nothing else they can do right now. The system is self-destructing and being strangled by its own regulations.

Engaging in a fight you have zero chance to win by trying to shut down the government can only alienate those independent voters that stand between a 2014 Obama re-capture of full power and a Republican takeover of the Senate.

When you have a strong wind at your back, such as the Republicans have right now, it's an act if idiocy to turn around and spit into that wind just because you can.

Ride the wave and watch Obamacare continue to sputter and fail badly in the next 12 months. And then let Democrats run on THAT in 2014.






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Ride the wave and watch Obamacare continue to sputter and fail badly in the next 12 months. And then let Democrats run on THAT in 2014.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but the criticism would be worse and the party splintered if the republicans did not vote to defund Obamacare...

The upcoming vote is actually a show of unity for republicans and a vote for representing Americans to kill Obamacare. This republican unity is what is pissing off the liberals and why you get the article that Decatur linked...

The libs are doing everything they can to break up this unity because they know in the end they are the only ones forcing Obamacare down America's throat...






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I don't see what is wrong with encouraging the people of the nation to stand up against a wrongheaded policy.

That is really all that Cruz is doing.






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The upcoming vote is actually a show of unity for republicans


Obviously the House Democrats will oppose any CR which defunds Obamacare. We all know that.

But we also know that the House GOP leadership doesn't like the idea of including this matter in the CR, and only reluctantly agreed to it.

So is there a possibility that a sizeable GOP faction will align with the Democrats to defeat such a CR? Not only do I think it is possible, I fully expect it.






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So is there a possibility that a sizeable GOP faction will align with the Democrats to defeat such a CR? Not only do I think it is possible, I fully expect it.


Not likely... The House leadership would not have made a public show if they did not think they had all the republicans behind the defund Obamacare resolution. Boehner is a noodle but not stupid. The overwhelming disgust of Obamacare by Americans is what gave Boehner the back bone to defund Obamacare.






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God House Republicans are idiots. Nowhere did Cruz say he wasn't going to fight for the defund effort he just pointed out that Reid will most likely succeed in stripping that portion out of the CR. He then says, if that happens the House GOP shouldn't fold they should continue to press the Senate, and the President, to accept the House CR.

It's like the House GOP doesn't care that it has power in this situation while Senate Republicans have almost none.






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"Cruz officially jumped the shark this week," said one GOP operative allied with House leadership, who, like others, requested anonymity to speak critically about fellow Republicans




Seriously Decatur? If you are going to quote from a left wing source that edges you out to give the best BJ to Obama, at least omit glaringly obvious bull shite in the source.

Wait, this just in. I have a super-secret democratic insider that says Obama wants to pass the House plan, but if he does so in public, he'll physically shite his pants on camera, and may inappropriately touch himself. I'm super cereal guys. This is legit!



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So is there a possibility that a sizeable GOP faction will align with the Democrats to defeat such a CR? Not only do I think it is possible, I fully expect it.



Would not need all that many Dems actually.

The Republicans had the right strategy up until a couple of days ago - delay the individual mandate until 2015. That was a winnable option, even in the Senate. And it's far more than symbolic. It would remove a LOT of money from the program for 2014 and make it even more unworkable. More than 22 Dems in the House were already onboard with that, and another 30 were widely reported to be ready to buy into it to preserve their 2014 chances. Obamacare will be slain by a thousand cuts, not one cannonball to the head.






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Another senior GOP leadership aide took a shot at Cruz declining to say whether he would filibuster the bill, telling CNN, "It is disappointing to see that Wendy Davis has more balls than Ted Cruz," in reference to the state senate Democrat who filibustered an abortion bill in the Texas legislature over the summer.

So they want Cruz to filibuster the House CR, which includes the defund language? Jesus we need new blood in Washington.






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