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sugar71
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What does that mean?


It means you are an idiot if you believe we were attacked for no reason other than 'our wealth' , 'way of life' , 'freedom',etc.....

Maybe because the USA Props up Dictators they wish to dispense with ? Or because we constantly meddle/manipulate Middle East internal affairs? Maybe because we are Israel's lapdog?



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Blue Velvet
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He had no legitimate reason to do that did he or are you are some kind of US hater that think he did?
Dear God. This is what we're up against.






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doubleb
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Obviously terrorism is criminal whether done by Moslem, Communist, Western or Zionists, it just doesn't matter. But he saw his actions as legitimate, they were necessary to get the west out of Islam lands, OBL's complaint goes back to the end of the first WW when Britain established western rule in the area and we succeeded to their leadership when they withdrew we began supporting nationalist states and we became the patron of Zionism. I suspect there is a lot of terror that you support.


I guess you two can conjure up excuses for what Hitler did too.

To wrongs don't make anyone right, and it's wrong to fly civilian air liners into occupied buildings unless of course you are at war and even then I'm not gun ho about it.

But then if OBL was at war with the US it proves my original statement doesn't it? We need to be aggressive and not sit around in our own cave waiting for people who can find any sorry arse excuse to attack us because there will always be so sorry arse excuse for evil.






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trackfan
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I guess you two can conjure up excuses for what Hitler did too.

To wrongs don't make anyone right, and it's wrong to fly civilian air liners into occupied buildings unless of course you are at war and even then I'm not gun ho about it.

But then if OBL was at war with the US it proves my original statement doesn't it? We need to be aggressive and not sit around in our own cave waiting for people who can find any sorry arse excuse to attack us because there will always be so sorry arse excuse for evil.

I have another idea. Why don't we just avoid giving people excuses to hate us? Haven't you ever wondered why they didn't attack the Swedes, the Chinese or the Brazilians? If you think we can just go around the world meddling in other people's business without any repercussions, you're living in a fantasy land. By the way, this video is five years old, but it's a must-see for folks like you.

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Blue Velvet
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I guess you two can conjure up excuses for what Hitler did too.






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oklahogjr
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I guess you two can conjure up excuses for what Hitler did too.


I could explain some of his reasoning but I don't find anything about it sensible. Muslim extremist on the other hand have some very real and valid complaints. And no I don't think they should have done what they did.

What they did was horrible and i'm glad we killed Bin Laden. While some considered it a bold foreign policy move I was actually ok with us dropping in seal team 6 and killing him. That was personal and I don't think any country could have blamed us for that.

On the other hand all the random drone striking we do would never happen in a country that would be able to fight back. Why is that? because it's absolutely horrible what we are doing. We've killed way more people than the terrorist have. Which is a tough situation to play victim out of.






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nola tiger lsu
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Why you hate Jews?


It's sad this response comes up every time Israel is criticized.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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sad that it must be asked too many times here.





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PhifeDogg
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there will always be so sorry arse excuse for evil.

This is applicable to the dipshits running this country too.

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To wrongs don't make anyone right
You lost this debate with your display of ignorance right here.







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Tchefuncte Tiger
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That was a well-written, unbiased article. Thanks for sharing.





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Porky
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Ron Paul brings up some really good points in that debate and I agree with him.

How can we expect people of other nations to respect the freedom and liberties we cherish if it encompasses meddling with the freedom and liberties of foreign countries in regard to making their own decisions in running their own countries?






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trackfan
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sad that it must be asked too many times here.

I see a lot of anti-Black, anti-Muslim and anti-Zionist comments posted on this board, but I don't recall seeing anti-Jew comments. I'm sure there have been some, but they are so few and far in between, that none of them come to mind. Perhaps you and I have a different idea of what it means to be anti-Jew.



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doubleb
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have another idea. Why don't we just avoid giving people excuses to hate us? Haven't you ever wondered why they didn't attack the Swedes, the Chinese or the Brazilians? If you think we can just go around the world meddling in other people's business without any repercussions, you're living in a fantasy land. By the way, this video is five years old, but it's a must-see for folks like you


I have an even better idea, why don't you go read some history books and learn that the Japanese attacked the Chinese before they attacked us. Russia fought the Chinese, India fought the Chinese, in fact Chinese have been fighting others and themselves for longer than the US has been around.

As for Brazil they too fought a war for independence from Portugal, but they also fought wars against Uruguay, Paraguay and Argentina. They also had numerous internal rebellions and uprisings. They have also been governed by kings and dictators who had all they could do to keep power at home so local wars were frequent. In fact the first peaceful transitions of power didn't happen until the 21st century.

As for Sweden, they did their share of fighting back in the day. They were involved in many European wars including the Napoleonic War. They have officially avoided wars since 1814 although essentially they were controlled by Germany in the WWII era. They had little choice but to go along with the Nazis since they really were defenseless. I guess we could model our national defense using Sweden as a model.






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trackfan
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I have an even better idea, why don't you go read some history books and learn that the Japanese attacked the Chinese before they attacked us. Russia fought the Chinese, India fought the Chinese, in fact Chinese have been fighting others and themselves for longer than the US has been around.

As for Brazil they too fought a war for independence from Portugal, but they also fought wars against Uruguay, Paraguay and Argentina. They also had numerous internal rebellions and uprisings. They have also been governed by kings and dictators who had all they could do to keep power at home so local wars were frequent. In fact the first peaceful transitions of power didn't happen until the 21st century.

As for Sweden, they did their share of fighting back in the day. They were involved in many European wars including the Napoleonic War. They have officially avoided wars since 1814 although essentially they were controlled by Germany in the WWII era. They had little choice but to go along with the Nazis since they really were defenseless. I guess we could model our national defense using Sweden as a model.

I thought we were talking about Al Qaeda. What does any of this stuff have to do with Osama bin Laden?






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I guess we could model our national defense using Sweden as a model.

Switzerland would perhaps be a better model.






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doubleb
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I thought we were talking about Al Qaeda. What does any of this stuff have to do with Osama bin Laden


We were until you stated we should try and be more like China, Brazil and Sweden.

Frankly, I wish we could just sit on the sidelines and watch the dictators, the oppressive governments, and the democracies of the world duke it out and we'd just sit here unaffected but it just seems to never work out that way.

You guys who blame all our problems on our alliance with Israel forget how we were getting into wars before Israel even existed. Blaming Israel for everything isn't correct.

We fought in Vietnam, Korea, Far East, Europe (twice), Cuba, Phillipines, Mexico and in a number of smaller fights and none of them had anything to do with Israel, the Jews or anything close.

I suspect if Israel volunteered to move to Anartica and have all the Jews settle there, we would still get into wars. We always have. I guess it comes with success.






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Porky
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You guys who blame all our problems on our alliance with Israel forget how we were getting into wars before Israel even existed. Blaming Israel for everything isn't correct.

Israel isn't the problem. It's our own arrogance and poor choices in regard to our foreign policy.






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sugar71
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We were until you stated we should try and be more like China, Brazil and Sweden.



What he is saying is that Japan is a VERY wealthy & free nation , but AlQueada didn't target their cities /embassies. Brazil is a G-20 nation & is less sexually repressed than we are in the states.


New York was attacked ,but not Tokyo nor Rio nor Sao Paulo. Why not?

Perhaps Japan , Brazil & other Nations don't routinely interfere in the Middle East nor do they do Israel's bidding?







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trackfan
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What he is saying is that Japan is a VERY wealthy & free nation , but AlQueada didn't target their cities /embassies. Brazil is a G-20 nation & is less sexually repressed than we are in the states.


New York was attacked ,but not Tokyo nor Rio nor Sao Paulo. Why not?

Perhaps Japan , Brazil & other Nations don't routinely interfere in the Middle East nor do they do Israel's bidding?

Bingo! Also look what happened to Japan when they were an arrogant superpower who threw its weight around. And France and the U.K. also got tired of all the blowback they had to endure when they were still colonial powers with troops spread out all over the globe.






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trackfan
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We were until you stated we should try and be more like China, Brazil and Sweden.

I want us to be like them with regard to their present-day foreign policy, without troops in over 100 different nations.
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You guys who blame all our problems on our alliance with Israel forget how we were getting into wars before Israel even existed. Blaming Israel for everything isn't correct.

Israel isn't our only problem, but it's our biggest Mideast problem. Did you not read what George Marshall said to Truman about the dire consequences of supporting Israel?
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We fought in Vietnam, Korea, Far East, Europe (twice), Cuba, Phillipines, Mexico and in a number of smaller fights and none of them had anything to do with Israel, the Jews or anything close.

Did anyone here blame Jews/Israel for those wars? Quit creating straw men.
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I suspect if Israel volunteered to move to Anartica and have all the Jews settle there, we would still get into wars. We always have. I guess it comes with success.

I comes with stupidity.






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