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Todd is the spider, Jesse is the fly. I bet Walt gets Todd to kill Jesse.


Todd better watch his back for using Walts formula

It was okay by the 68% Declan guy.






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


Todd was really talking up Walt at the beginning of the episode too. He will do anything Walt says.





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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


HOLY frickING SHIT


One of the most tense hours of my life right there. Up there with the last 3 innings of Game 6 of the 2011 World Series






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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Anybody feel Hank followed Jesse to Walts house?


Bingo, that's why he left the office after being told Jesse's tail was pulled.






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A pretty good explanation here, not my own:

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Watched this show countless times. Tonight's episode was so fricking perfect. Ignore the context placers if you don't need 'em. And skip what you don't need to read, but this is a full backstory... here's what happened:

Season 4
Walt needs Jesse on his side to get to Gus

Context: If you recall, Jesse is the one who tells Walt that Gus seems to have a big hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca, then Walt figured out how to plant the bomb on Tio, Gus died... etc etc

So Walt forms a scheme to get Jesse to distrust Gus.
Walt tells Saul to somehow extract the cigarette from Jesse. Thus Saul has Huell lift the ricin cigarette from Jesse's pocket (most likely by simply trading out the packs, dummy pack for the real one with the ricin).

Context: Originally Jesse was somewhat distrustful of Gus, Walt had hatched an earlier plan to have Jesse kill Gus with the ricin. But Jesse was befriended by Gus, and he eventually came to like the guy. Also, if you remember, Saul is frantic to get Jesse to his office, calling him over and over again. It was to get him in the office to get the cigarette off him.

Jesse now has a dummy pack of cigarettes. With this in mind, Walt now makes the moves to make Jesse distrust Gus. Walt takes his "Lilly of the Valley" extract and gives it to Jesse's girlfriend's young son Brock.

Context: Vince Gilligan, the show's creator, has stated several times that the writers have imagined Walt's delivery system as perhaps a doctored juice box or something of the like. Sneaking into Brock's school to place it in his lunch or even hand it to him would've been fairly rudimentary for a teacher.

"Lilly of the Valley" gives pneumonia-like symptoms that appear very severe (the same symptoms that ricin gives when killing someone). So Jesse thought that Brock was poisoned by the ricin. Jesse frantically searches in his cigarette pack only to find, ah! It's not there! (Huell took it!)
Jesse bursts into Walt's home, gun in hand demanding Walt to admit that he poisoned Brock with the now missing ricin. Important to note: Jesse says that Huell must have took it when he went to meet Saul. Jesse is no idiot, he was 100% right on his instincts. Walt claims ignorance, saying he has no reason to do so and he has no idea what Jesse is talking about (lying obviously). Through Walt's machinations, he convinces Jesse that it must have been Gus, who has hurt children before (Andrea's brother who shot Combo was killed by some of Gus' lower order thugs).
Jesse now doles out the details of Gus' hatred for Hector "Tio" Salamanca leading to Gus' eventual death via Walt's admittedly ingenious scheme.
At the end of season 4, the doctors at the hospital tell Jesse that Brock was not poisoned with ricin, but had consumed "Lilly of the Valley" berries in some shape or fashion. Jesse, taken aback, rationalizes with Walt that even though Gus didn't do it, he "had to go," although he is clearly still rattled.

Season 5A
Walt and Jesse go on a hunt for the missing ricin cigarette (although Walt knows exactly where it's at, and we're even shown Saul throwing the ricin cigarette back to Walt in a plastic bag, making a crack about Huell's "nimble sausage fingers"). Walt is just making a facade to make Jesse think the cigarette was simply misplaced. They "find" the ricin cigarette in Jesse's electronic vacuum (although it was Walt who placed it there).
Jesse breaks down in tears, realizing he almost killed Walt over this (as aforementioned when Jesse confronted him in season 4, saying he was the one who took the cigarette and poisoned Brock). Although in reality, the bastard did deserve it.

Season 5B
This episode! Jesse is ready to move on with his life, move to Alaska, and just leave ABQ. Saul tells Jesse he can't bring pot to the meet with his "guy." The guy won't be inclined to help a druggie disappear (sensible). Jesse defiantly and silently refuses to give up his stash. Saul leaves the room to get "money bags" and while he is out there he tells Huell to pinch Jesse's stash off him (rewatch the scene, you can actually see him snatch it from Jesse!).
Jesse is waiting at the stop, he searches his pockets, at first just simply realizing the pot isn't there. But he looks at his pack of cigarettes and realizes, holy shit, Huell took my pot just now... and they took the ricin just as I had originally thought. Walt has been bullshiteting me ever since.
And that's where we're at! That's about as thorough as I can get off the top of my head.






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In this episode, Jesse never claims that Walt poisoned Brock with ricin, obviously he knows that Brock was poisoned by Lilly of the Valley.
Jesse's reaction doesn't just stem from an incident isolated in itself (although I would heavily argue the moral "gray" of poisoning a child...) but from a series of events that were catalyzed by Walt's poisoning of Brock.
Think of the implications. If Walt lied about poisoning a child it means that Jesse helped kill Gus for essentially nothing. It means that Walt is probably lying about not killing Mike. It means a kid on a motorcycle gets shot. It means Walt probably lied about any number of other things to Jesse.
Jesse is so enraged he recaptures that anger (anger so strong he threatened to shoot Walt in the head just a season prior) in addition to being nearly certain that Walt has killed Mike.


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Jesse realizing that Walt poisoned Brock sent him into a rage because his actions since have been conditional on the fact that Walt didn't poison a young child.






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


Wow. I have been watching the first shows simultaneously with the new episodes coming out. My friend has never seen the show so I talked her into finally watching it. Anyway, it's funny watching Walt and Jesse bumble and do things wrong. Walt can't lie for shite in the beginning.

Now, here we are at this episode and Walt masterfully manipulates Flynn from going over to Marie's house and it was so easy for him to do. He tries to do it to Jesse...again... but he knows the schtick.

The "confession" was brilliant. Plus, frick Hank. He's annoying and only worried about a bust. Marie needs to STFU.

I had to go back and watch the scene again but you can see Huell snatch the bag. Like others, I don't think that was the best connection. Brock was never poisoned with ricin. I understand Jesse realizes Huell took the cigs and weed off him, but that still doesn't mean Walt did shite. It moves the story forward, but it could've been maybe a different way.

My friend and I watched S2E2 tonight and when Tucco is kicking Jesse and about to kill him, as Jesse was sitting there crying, she says "He's a bitch" She leaves and then I watch the new ep.

Seeing him throw the money and now pour the gas, I agree, he's a bitch. I think either Flynn walks in and Jesse bails out or, as some suggested, Hank followed Jesse. But obviously, the house doesn't get burned down.

I think it might be possible Flynn writes Heisenberg on the walls at some point

TL;DR Show was awesome



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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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Just now watching it


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LateArrival


I'm shocked






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


So what was the point of the scene with Todd and his uncle at the diner? To show that Todd's talking up Walt or simply talking too much? Also, the three of them stared at the waitress in such a weird way when she walked up to the table.





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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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So what was the point of the scene with Todd and his uncle at the diner? To show that Todd's talking up Walt or simply talking too much? Also, the three of them stared at the waitress in such a weird way when she walked up to the table.


I think it showed how nonchalant they were about the massacre that just took place. Also how much Todd idolized Walt, which will come back into play at some point. And it showed them heading back to New Mexico to cook.






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


Do you think the bloody napkin didnt flush all the way and it comes back into the picture?


Seemed like it didnt go down the toilet






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


They killed someone at the diner. Right after the uncle cleans the blood of his shoe, you get a glimpse of a pool of blood under the toilet.





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talking too much
imo






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


I'm assuming Todd is gonna use the equipment from the extermination business to start cooking again. Todd won't be able to make the blue with a high purity though. I'm interested to see how they try to rope Walt back in.





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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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So what was the point of the scene with Todd and his uncle at the diner?


I would assume it's just to confirm that Todd is now taking back over the cooking operation.






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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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Do you think the bloody napkin didnt flush all the way and it comes back into the picture?


Nah, I think it was just a really good visual to start the episode






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Flair Chops
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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


When it first happened, I expected the toilet to clog, but it seems like it was nothing now





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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7


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They killed someone at the diner. Right after the uncle cleans the blood of his shoe, you get a glimpse of a pool of blood under the toilet.

I didn't notice that, just thought it was leftover from the Declan massacre.






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They killed someone at the diner. Right after the uncle cleans the blood of his shoe, you get a glimpse of a pool of blood under the toilet.



I didn't notice that, just thought it was leftover from the Declan massacre.


I thought this as well...but then I wondered if that waitress would come into play for some reason. The way they were looking at her made me think they might do something to her...of course that really wouldn't relate to the story unless to show they were just that ruthless...






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Hmmm,

well all I know is that Marie stated to Skyler in front of Hank that she wondered if the affair was even true,

so, I get to say it again


wait for it



TED IS NOT DEAD

(dammit, this better pan out )






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