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RedStickBR
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There was a hint of sarcasm in there.

But I disagree. His Presidency has been an abject failure, particularly when considering the massive advantage he had in his first two years.

This is a guy who enters Washington with control of Congress and a blank check in the form of the stimulus bill that approached nearly $1T.

He easily could have gone down in the history books as a great American President by taking that check and using it towards real infrastructure products, which likely would have had the joint effect of allowing our economy to recover much more quickly than the current rate. Instead, he promises infrastructure investment, which translates into us getting about 10-12% of the total invested in infrastructure and him using the rest to pay back people who got him elected and pursue liberal wet dreams like the fiasco at Solyndra.

Meanwhile, he pushed through a health care bill that commentators on both the left and right have called a complete disaster and expends nearly all of his political capital in the process, leading to a Republican wave of victories in 2010 and him essentially becoming a 6-yr. lame duck.

He's been in a unique position to make true strides towards improved race relations, but has instead taken the side of the race baiters and opportunists while largely ignoring the true problems which plague the African-American community. Meanwhile, African-American unemployment has soared to unprecedented levels in disproportion to that of the population at large and even that of those from below the border, many of whom haven't even truly assimilated yet.

His willingness to lead, if present in the first place, has been completely thwarted by his complete inability to lead, owing in no small amount to his "gotcha" political tactics which first reared their head literally in his first week in office.

Perhaps most unfortunately, government has seen massive expansion which has been paralleled by an unrivaled loss of freedom for the American people.

I could go on ... and on ... and on and on and on.

If this is a successful Presidency to you, then your bar is entirely too low.



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BobABooey
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Isn't the justification for not returning GZ's gun that there is an ongoing investigation? In light of that, why would the President comment on the incident at all?







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imjustafatkid
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What he did will lessen the impact of the DOJ's ultimate decision which will be not to pursue this case.


You don't know they won't pursue a case.






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Doresrules
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I never said it was the best presidency in the history of the US. I could lay out a batch of failures from every president.

Until this country stops choosing sides of democratic or republican we will always get a mediocre president who does minimal to actually change anything.






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Volvagia
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Then you should take the time to consider the meaning of words as that's exactly what you said:

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I don't think Obama failed any more than any other president.


Sure, all presidents have failures, but if you say that if he didn't fail anymore than any other president, then that implicitly states he has failed the least and is one of the best.

Logic, it only hurts for a minute.






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RedStickBR
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As someone who considers themselves part of the political middle, you don't get bummed out by how much this guy perpetuates the cycle of dependency that has sucked the life and sense of worth out of the AA community?

I got my haircut today from a woman who moved here 31 years ago from Thailand. Her English is only good enough that she can communicate but by no means great by any standards. I walk into her shop and in the course of 45 minutes, she's sent four other guys on their way with very satisfactory haircuts, a point they made sure to communicate to her. When my turn arrives and I sit in her chair, we make small talk and I ask her if she gets back to Thailand much. The conversation is interrupted twice as she answers the cordless phone to ink two more appointments even though she closes in five minutes, all the while keeping a very steady hand on the scissors which continue to cut my hair. When the conversation resumes, she says she does make it back sometimes and that she's actually planning on moving home again soon. I ask her why? Apart from wanting to be near to her family again, which is admittedly the most important reason, she says she's fed up with the political system that requires her, an immigrant, to pay increasingly higher tax rates all the while the government is dishing out money to a dysfunctional cohort that is much more able than herself, both physically and socially. She goes on to say she opposes this because it makes people lazy. She then told me she's been cutting hair for 31 years and has only missed work during the every so often she's able to make it back to her home country - in other words, she has every right to judge whether someone may be lazy or not.

When you have a 70-some odd year old woman who's only minimally assimilated with more common sense towards our political troubles in this country than the majority of the Democratic party and some Republicans, you know your country is in a complete state of shite.

I'm not the "personal story" kind of guy, particularly on a message board. But her story really struck me as I sat there listening to it in a complete state of enthrallment as to why people who are born here with every advantage known to man (relative to much of the rest of the world) still amount to nothing short of complete and utter dysfunction.

When does this shite stop? And why do people like yourself enable it? And why does the first black President continue to support it?

The fact you, presumably a successful black man, support this guy is completely beyond me.



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WmWallace
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The thing that bothers me most is that you say the only reason he followed TM is because of his race. How do you know this? The black community's bias is obviously apparent and I understand you may have a similar personal experience but when does it end? If he is the night watchman isn't he supposed to check out someone in a hoody walking around houses? I could have cared less what color someone was as this would have appeared grossly suspicious to me..when this becomes a national issue while black kids are being killed every weekend by other black kids is incredibly ironic to me..why didn't Obama just once mention community responsibility of their own?





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NC_Tigah
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There isn't a absence of evidence that race was a factor.
In expressing that completely baseless speculation,
you ignore the opinions of an EXTREMELY aggressive prosecution, you ignore statements by Trayvon's parents, you ignore Zimmerman's recorded call, you ignore his history which is anything but racist,

you ignore basically every known fact in the case.







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S.E.C. Crazy
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Ohhh how I wish ........

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I had an Oscar Myer wiener.







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Scoop
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So many of you guys aren't even attempting to view things outside of your own view point


frick you.

Sorry, but you sound like someone not willing to address the fact that 93/100 of black males that are killed are killed by other black males.

Should I put on my best dress and heels and dance with you through your bullshite?



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Zahrim
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Should I put on my best dress and heels and dance with you through your bullshite?


not worth your time.






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arktiger28
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"Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago"

Have ya'll discussed the self centerlines of this statement? Most people would not have stated it that way. Most would say "That could have been me 35 years ago".






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Big Sway
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The worst president in our countries biggest time of need!





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CajunAngele
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Obama gonna Obama


Obama gonna narcissist

But even for him this is horrible race-baiting showing lack of any inclination of any leadership.






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Doresrules
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Very good well thought post.

I support Obama just like I've supported every president since I was able to understand politics and how things work.

As a educated man I do understand that there are just lazy people who are the scum of the earth. I also realize that there are also individuals who are a product of the society. Its hard to have drive when there is NO one around you with it. No one in your life pushes you.







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Champagne
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There isn't a absence of evidence that race was a factor. If Trayvon wasn't black, GZ never follows him.


Do you have any evidence that would tend to support your conclusory statement that GZ would not have followed TM, but for the fact that TM was African-American?

You do not. As such, I find your conclusory statement that is based on your pure biased SPECULATION to be completely unpersuasive.

Thank you for demonstrating your astounding ability to pronounce significant conclusions with proud certainty, when your conclusion is based on bias and speculation, rather then logic and evidence.

Perhaps the President will ask you to re-write the laws for us. You seem to have the kind of gray-matter that he's looking for when it comes to analysis of the GZ case.



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Sentrius
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what a race baiting piece of shite.


Upvote.

Anybody who tries to dispute this is a fricking moron.

The POTUS has no business commenting on this. This is indefensible and liberals and democrats who defend him shouldn't even bother on this one.






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Sentrius
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If you actually listened to what he said you'd have seen he didn't criticize the verdict. I doubt 99% of the posters in this thread listened to his statement.

What he did will lessen the impact of the DOJ's ultimate decision which will be not to pursue this case. He let those upset know that he hears them. He let you know why people are upset although I doubt you'll listen.

It was a statement not from a teleprompter and not for political reasons because he knows the reaction from many. He did it because no one better is able to address this and IMO his statement was just what this country needed to move on. It was historical.


The POTUS has no business commenting on this. It is inappropriate, unethical and irresponsible. He basically used his position to fan the flames and manipulate the news cycle. If he wanted to invigorate blacks, he got the job done, but he just alienated a significant portion of whites, some Hispanics and other ethnicities as well.

Aren't you tired of the race baiting your party continues to pull time and time again?

You don't care anyway because your party benefits from it. This will only wind up being harmful to race relations in the long run and will further inflame the black community to do what they've been doing in this whole situation.

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you're wrong and history will show you're wrong.


Wrong on what? How will that happen?

You're one of those liberals that actually still defend him.

frick, I wish Gary Johnson was President. He would know what to do in this situation and that is shut the frick up and not give the GZ/TM debacle recognition and legitimacy from the President of the United States of America.






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Doresrules
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Do you have any evidence that would tend to support your conclusory statement that GZ would not have followed TM, but for the fact that TM was African-American?


You don't care for me to state any evidence. You will only pull one point from it and try to default it as non evidence.

You have the ability to look online and at police reports of the 40 something odd calls Zimmerman made to the police. 9 of which were suspicious individuals. Have you seen 9 suspicious individuals in your neighborhood? You have the ability to also draw conclusions which is what the verdict was based off of. If you have the ability to draw the conclusion that Zimmerman was acting in defense when he was the initial aggressor then I have the right to draw the conclusion that a man that has called in 9 times to suspicious young black males might have a racial issue in thinking black males are up to no good.


How do you gather suspicion of someone who is wearing normal clothes, looks normal, and is doing nothing wrong without profiling?

Also from the affidavit:
The document goes on to say that Zimmeman “assumed Martin was a criminal” and “felt (he) did not belong in the gated community.” Investigators also reference the 911 calls from Zimmerman, in which he says, “these a-holes, they always get away” and “these f*cking punks.”

How does Zimmerman gather all of this from a guy walking down the street with a bag of Skittles?

He doesn't know TM. How could he gather that he was a a-hole, that got away with a crime?

Please explain.



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Sentrius
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What he did will lessen the impact of the DOJ's ultimate decision which will be not to pursue this case. He let those upset know that he hears them. He let you know why people are upset although I doubt you'll listen.

It was a statement not from a teleprompter and not for political reasons because he knows the reaction from many. He did it because no one better is able to address this and IMO his statement was just what this country needed to move on. It was historical.


El oh El at Vegas Bengal actually thinking Obama, a politician from the R's or D's, actually cares about the problems of America and his race. That is hysterical.

All Romney and Obama wants to do is frick the people up the ass. And I have had enough of people who apologize for those thugs.

All Ron Paul and Gary Johnson wants to do is stop the fricking and leave us alone.






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