I don't think anyone would say they prefer Martin and Thompson over Collins. Those guys will be solid, but they don't have the game changing ability of Collins.
Yeah, but Willis was the only one who could. Robinson dominated everybody else. The only reason they ranked Robinson #3 is because he couldn't play in pads, not his fault at all. The general consensus on 247 is that Robinson will be the #1 ranked player in this class.
I am no expert but La'el and CamRob are very different recruiting stories.
La'el was from right here in BR, in th efirst place.
His family was overwhelmingly for LSU;
Alabama was never in the equation (his choices included FSU, Auburn, USC among others, but not Ala).
Accd. to Rivals he first commmitted in September 2009! He was a 2011 recruit.
La'el was always staying in BR and going to LSU.
CamRod's recruitment is wide open, abd it represents a true test for Miles.
I don't understand why folks find it difficult to acknowledge what the recruit tells us himself. He , unlike others, is entirely credible.
Collins may turn out to be "better" but only marginally so. Coming out Kirkpatrick was a 5 * "game changer" at CB. He was a great college player and high first round pick. As opposed to 3* athlete Mo Claiborne. The only position where you can credibly argue that 1 player and 1 player alone can make that much difference is QB.
People get too hung up on rankings of players. You need elite level talent to win at a high level. As long as LSU has elite level talent that can compete at the highest level. How the game unfolds between 2 elite level teams depends on a lot of factors.
They both are beast in their own position, no argument from me, we need both to stay home.
Many good points are made in this post about how LSU has lost relatively few players of LA of note, obviously with a few more seasons of Landon Collins at 'Bama still pending.
I would add that few of us will forget how hyped Joe McKnight was and though he did make it to the NFL, he did not have anywhere near the impact that most of the recruiting gurus imagined & his loss was nowhere near as crushing as it appeared it would be on NSD that year.
Luther Davis - low 4* - D
Robby Green - low 4* - F (kicked off the team right)
Kenny Bell - low 4* - C (nothing special here) Eddie Lacy - med 4* - B+ (not as good as Richardson or Yeldon or Ingram and a short career at Alabama...how good is the guy behind an Arkansas or Vanderbilt line?...nuff said) Sentimore - med 4* - D (short career at Alabama, moved on to Tenn)
Sylve - low 4* - prediction of a C grade at best L Collins - 5* - prediction of a B- grade Falkins - low 4* - prediction of an F grade (not a division 1-A caliber WR)
T Williams - med 4* - prediction of a C+ grade and will be looking over his shoulder to watch other signees pass him up (other than ESPN, the guy was dropping in ratings his SR season)