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KG5989
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Nothing. But what does LSUs win over Washington have to do with Alabama potentially going up against Stanford last year? Same thing.

I think the guy who posted that was just making a point that had to do with common opponents with LSU and BAMA vs Stanford and ND and how each would matchup against each other.



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Gardevoir
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Nothing. But what does LSUs win over Washington have to do with Alabama potentially going up against Stanford last year? Same thing.

I think the guy who posted that was just making a point that had to do with common opponents with LSU and BAMA vs Stanford and ND and how each would matchup against each other.

I would not bring up LSU's game with Washington to make an argument for Alabama against Stanford. There are better reasons to think Alabama would win.

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If you dont think LSU would beat Notre Dame by at least 21pts, there is something wrong with you. And its got more to do with how bad ND was than how good LSU was. That team shouldnt of been playing for a Natl title... PERIOD. Going to the wire with Stanford is 1 thing... Struggling with Purdue, Pitt, and BYU is another. If BYU would of made their FG they would of went OT. And Pitt would of won if they made a FG too. Purdue went 6-7, but only lost to ND by 3 and gave them all they could handle. BYU went 8-5 and shoulda went to OT with ND. Pitt went 6-7 and should of BEATEN ND. ND was a joke.

You didn't have to tell me all that. I was aware the Notre Dame and Ohio State's schedules were a joke and that they struggled against what should have been cupcakes.

LSU struggled against Auburn, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Notre Dame backed into the #1 spot because Alabama, Oregon, and Kansas State lost. That's it. The BCS thought Notre Dame was #4 in the country tops. Truth be told, the rankings system is a joke. This playoff selection committee probably won't be much better, but at least 4 teams can earn a spot.

Take off the purple and gold glasses for a moment. Did LSU or Florida finish the season with an O-line near the caliber of Alabama's? No. Did LSU or Florida regularly play with a reliable passing game? No. Alabama's O-line dominated the line of scrimmage and allowed Alabama to dictate the game. What would (not could) LSU do if Notre Dame put 8 men in the box? Do you trust Mettenberger to hit the receivers if they're open? I think there's a lot of things you're glossing over about your own team in this matchup. Coaching? Which Mettenberger shows up? O-line health? etc.

Florida might also struggle against Notre Dame's defense. I don't think Notre Dame's offense would be able to score enough to beat either of you though, but I doubt it's a 4 touchdown beating either. Honestly, all 3 had unremarkable passing offenses. It could be a hard game to watch.






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Gardevoir
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I hate Alabama

I stopped talking about them after the do over game...

I don't think they deserved to be in that game primarily because they lost the West conference to LSU at home...LSU 13-0 equal SEC representative in the title game, period...we don't have a play off system so the regular season is all we have..It was settled there...

Just because Alabama was better eye candy than OSU does not forfeit OSU's chance to play LSU in the game

End of story

What do you think of the 1959 football season? Georgia won the conference. Ole Miss only beat one respectable opponent: Arkansas. LSU beat Ole Miss 7-3 in Baton Rouge and accepted an invitation to the Sugar Bowl for a rematch. #2 Ole Miss defeated #3 LSU 21-0 in the rematch. LSU never got within reasonable scoring range and was held to 74 yards of total offense.

What do you think about 1996 Florida getting a rematch against Florida State for the national championship? What do you think about 2001 Nebraska and 2003 Oklahoma competing for the national championship despite blowout losses in their conference championship games?

So in the LSU fanbase's opinion, teams that don't win their division or conference outright can compete for national championships as long as it isn't against teams they've already beaten? Rematches are excusable so long as they aren't between teams in the same conference?

Admit it. Most of you LSU fans would rather get your blowout victory over an overrated team with a flashy offense than play the only team that could give you fits. Y'all should be upset at Oklahoma State for losing to unranked Iowa State. Oklahoma state barely got by Texas A&M and Kansas State. Oklahoma State struggled to beat Stanford. They were a Top 10 team but definitely not Top 2. Alabama and LSU blew out everyone they played during the regular season except each other.

Edit: Might I remind you that y'all were SEC West Co-Champs in 2003. Thank Ole Miss for losing two OOC games.



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Quentin Compson
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1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. LSU
4. Notre Dame
5. Northwestern






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Laman1978
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TCU
Yeah, and how about Boise State?



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Gardevoir
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Yeah, and how about Boise State?

Teams that play in non-AQ conferences against average and garbage competition don't deserve too much recognition for their records and bowl accomplishments. They lost to 7-6 Michigan State last year.






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KG5989
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I would not bring up LSU's game with Washington to make an argument for Alabama against Stanford. There are better reasons to think Alabama would win.


While I completely agree with that, the point of the post someone put on here was the common opponents thing. Thats all. Your looking way too much into that. It was just the common opponents thing and how each would matchup against each other. Not a big deal. And I didnt even say it. I was just trying to help explain it to you. That is all.

Sure, we struggled in some games. Still won them. And the teams we struggled with were in the SEC. Auburn did suck last year... I have no answers for that game. But, Alabama did lose to TAMU, while we beat them. And, once again, the LSU vs Bama game came down to the wire and was a phenomenal football game. Everything you said just makes it sound like Alabama was so much better at us in every phase, and not really close. While I admit Bama was better than us last year, its closer than you made it out to be. We can still compete with yall and even beat yall. If we played 10x with last years teams, it would be 6-4 Bama or 5-5. Both teams were really really good last year.

Yea Im with you on the BCS thing. Im glad they got rid of it, but I dont think it will be that much better. At least with them picking 4 teams instead of 2 it gives the committee a better chance to actually get it right. But, what if 1 team is undefeated, then you have 6 teams with 1 lose. How do you pick 3 teams over the other 3 teams? Still has some flaws and issues and only a matter of time until the flaws come out. Im still holding out hope that we will just have a legit 28 team playoff or something of that nature in the next 10-15 years.


And now its turned into a Bama-LSU/UF comparison...

Would we struggled a little bit and not scored on every posession vs ND? Yes because we dont have as strong and polished passing attack like yall do. I agree. But, our OL would still do just fine against their DL. ND DL was the most overrated unit in all of college football last year. And by the end of the year, we had our OL playing damn good football. We shuffled a lot of guys around and had to deal with injuries, but down the stretch when we had our OL figured out it was a pretty strong group. I would not be worried at all with our OL vs ND DL. We would be able to run it on them all day. Was our OL as good at Bamas last year? No. Bamas OL last year was arguably the best in the history of college football. Warmack, Fluker, and Cyrus are awesome. Cyrus will be a top 5 pick next year. Jones was as good a leader as you can have in college football. But, with that said, our OL was still a top tier OL in the nation last year.And, while I agree Mett did struggle at times, he was way more relaxed and calm back there during the end of the year and looked like he had his legs under him and was hitting his stride throwing the football. And, Im not worried about ND DBs... at all. I trust our WRs to get open and would be fairly confident that Mett could get it there. But, i cant disagree that it all depends which Mett shows up. He did look improved and better down the stretch. Still had his ups and downs though. His highest ups was vs Alabama so you saw what he was capable of when hes on. He did have some lows though. But, by the end of the season he was playing fairly consisent and confident and I was happy with what I saw down the stretch.

I just feel that defensively we would of dominated ND and would of been able to run it down their throat no matter what. And if they brought someone in the box, I feel that we would be able to pass it on them when we need to. I wasnt really glossing over anything, but you might be looking at it in too much details. I do agree that coaching would play a factor in it. If Hill is dominating like he was vs Clemson, does Les take him out? I agree wit that. But, player vs player, we are 21points better than ND. No denying that. We have an advantage over them on the OL, DL, DBs, and RBs. And its not really close.

I understand that your proud of your team for winning another Natl title, and you should be. I respect the hell out of Alabama and what they do. But, I think youre giving ND too much credit and overrating them, and also letting your Bama mindset(which I have no problem with) take some things away from the team we had at LSU last year. And I didnt say 28pts in my post. I said at least 21. And i still stick by that. We would of beaten ND by 21pts or more.






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KG5989
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Admit it. Most of you LSU fans would rather get your blowout victory over an overrated team with a flashy offense than play the only team that could give you fits.


I dont. LSU and Alabama were by far the top 2 teams in the nation that year. And, IMO, the committee actually got it right putting Alabama in the game. Sucks for OK State but they finally got the top 2 teams in the nation in the title game.

And everything I said that was respectful to Alabama and everything went right out the window with that douchey comment.






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dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Admit it. Most of you LSU fans would rather get your blowout victory over an overrated team with a flashy offense than play the only team that could give you fits.

You still don't get it. We did play the only team and won. I would have no problem with a 40-14 win over OSU.






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Gardevoir
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I wish more ranters were like you. Your post was incredibly commendable.

I'm not a diehard Alabama fan, and that's just one of several reasons why I don't have them as my favorite team. I know Alabama isn't unbeatable and that the teams were close last year. Both teams left points on the field last year. LSU's wide receivers had a few drops early. Alleman missed at least one field goal. A few other plays didn't go your way. You gave up a stupid touchdown at the end of both halves.

LSU took away the pass but was allowing Alabama to run the ball. For some reason or another, Alabama decided not to run the ball much in the 2nd half. McCarron overthrew a wide-open Amari Cooper early in the game, and then Cooper disappeared. McCarron fumbled a handoff to Yeldon, when Alabama was deep in LSU territory.

Alabama was outplayed and their defense was on the field for 2/3 of the ball game, but the team still came away with a win. I think last year's game was good revenge for the 11/5/11 loss. Alabama was dominated on the road yet won.

Here's how I'd rank the SEC programs.

1. Alabama

2. LSU
3. Florida
4/5/6. Texas A&M/Georgia/South Carolina

7. Ole Miss
8. Vanderbilt

If LSU had consistently competent quarterback play and a better head coach, y'all would have won more national titles. There's not a huge gap between the Alabama and LSU programs. Les Miles does a much better job of preparing his teams for the Alabama/LSU game than Nick Saban. Les Miles' teams seem to do better on game day against Alabama too. I don't know what's up with Nick Saban dominating everyone yet struggling against LSU. LSU dominates Mississippi State but has played Arkansas and Alabama closely. Ole Miss at home and Auburn on the road seem to give LSU trouble too.

Honestly, I can respect all the SEC programs except Georgia. I don't like Georgia's fans or their team. I also can't stand most of the Aggies' posters here. Other than that, the other SEC fanbases on the rant are okay.






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Gardevoir
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And everything I said that was respectful to Alabama and everything went right out the window with that douchey comment.

That little remark I made was to the Alabama hater not you or the more reasonable, objective fans. Sorry.

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You still don't get it. We did play the only team and won. I would have no problem with a 40-14 win over OSU.

I understand that you came away with a win versus Alabama during the regular season. I was talking about who y'all would rather play for the national championship. It was either going to be Alabama or Oklahoma State. Stanford didn't deserve it. Oregon knocked themselves out of consideration by losing to U.S.C. I don't think Oregon would have won the rematch; they probably would have lost worse.






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Laman1978
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Teams that play in non-AQ conferences
Yeah, no kidding, hence the " " at the end of my statement. You heard of "sarcasm" before?






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tiger81
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We beat Alabama on their field in the game of the Century.... we deserved half the title at least. But, that's the BCS for you.





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Cameron Cooke
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2. Oregon

UMMMM NOOO...which planet are you on bro?

They are a flashy, 5-7 years out of being a nobody. Good team as of recent years, but program absolutely not.

They could be a nobody again in a few more years.



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KG5989
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danfraz
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Well according to the game day tweet just sent out its LSU/Bama and ...

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WITNESS23
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1 Alabama
2 LSU
3 Florida
4 Oregon
5 Stanford






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Mayhawman
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I think the guy who posted that was just making a point that had to do with common opponents with LSU and BAMA vs Stanford and ND and how each would matchup against each other.
Domers needed OT to beat Cards.
Udub wiped the field with them, frickin red feathers everywhere.

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Hot Carl
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Bama
Florida/LSU
Oregon/Ohio State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State/Stanford






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Gardevoir
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We beat Alabama on their field in the game of the Century.... we deserved half the title at least. But, that's the BCS for you.


Well BCS Championships cannot be split. Once the final rankings come out, the winners of the bowls receive the awards. Alabama won the rematch, so they got the trophy.

11/5/11 did not convince the voters that LSU was definitively better than Alabama. Remember the breaks that LSU has caught. Recall other "undeserving" teams that played for a title. This isn't the first time a highly ranked LSU has been dominated and shutout in a New Orleans bowl game. See the 1960 Sugar Bowl.

Did 1996 Florida State deserve a share of the title after being blown out by Florida in the rematch? 2001 Nebraska got blown out in its conference championship yet was placed in the BCSNCG. 2003 Oklahoma got blown out in its conference championship yet was placed in the championship game, they did not deserve a #1 ranking after that loss. LSU did not win the Western Division outright in 2003 either. USC deserved a spot in the title game. The correct pick would have been #1 LSU versus #2 USC.

How about the "Year of the Upset" a.k.a. 2007 season? Most teams need some luck. Unless you go undefeated in a strong conference or with a strong schedule, your destiny is controlled by other teams' wins and losses.

I would entertain the idea of y'all deserving a share of the title if 1/9/12 was close, but it didn't end that way.






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