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But you could (as we see here) put yourself in a real bad spot.


no doubt. it's easy to say i would have avoided the situation.

But it sounds like GZ tried extensively to alert police to an ongoing problem to no avail. he was probably pretty fed up.






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Oh ok that would completely change my opinion if he did. I really think he was getting his arse beat and got scared.





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what if the 911 operator asked you what street the person was on and you had to get out of the car to see the street sign and address?

Could just get out and look at the street sign or drive up to the street sign and give the info to the officer.






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How is this trial still standing on grounds of Murder 2 if the states witness says Trayvon was on top of GZ?





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But it sounds like GZ tried extensively to alert police to an ongoing problem to no avail. he was probably pretty fed up.
That is what the prosecution wants to prove.






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That is what the prosecution wants to prove
If that is what they are trying to prove then why didnt they go for manslaughter? Their own witness just shot down any chance at Murder 2



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Black man kills unarmed white teen walking home from the store and he 100% gets arrested and charged. Not saying it would be right or wrong, but I have zero doubt about this.

Again, I think you are completely oversimplifying and using black/white term. You're throwing out all the other factors. I can't for the life of me see why you would simply throw everything out and look at strictly race. A black man, older, neighborhood watch, reports being attacked by a hispanic. He has called 911. Black man is beaten up. He reports that hispanic attacked him and was beating him to death. Hispanic has criminal record. No eyewitnesses.

Stating you have zero doubt black man is arrested flabbergasts me.






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teenager.


I'm an adult and he's way the hell bigger than I am.






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I would give it to her.

And that single point would change this entire case.

"after getting out of my vehicle to give the 911 operator the correct address, as she asked for it, I was attacked by an assailant. I was in fear for my life."

Case closed.






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ou're throwing out all the other factors.
I am including them by reference. Situation the exact same, but black man is the shooter and decedent is white, then the black man would be arrested and charged.

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I can't for the life of me see why you would simply throw everything out and look at strictly race.
I was responding to a comment that said he wouldn't have been charged if the media hadn't referred to him as white. Which is possibly true, IMO, FWIW.






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If that is what they are trying to prove then why didnt they go for manslaughter?
No good reason IMO. Prosecutors always believe more in their case than should and often over charge. Also may be hoping that in asking for Murder 2, the jury will see manslaughter as a reasonable compromise and convict on that lesser included offense.






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I am including them by reference. Situation the exact same, but black man is the shooter and decedent is white, then the black man would be arrested and charged.


not a chance






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I am including them by reference. Situation the exact same, but black man is the shooter and decedent is white, then the black man would be arrested and charged.


das some bool chit






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Also may be hoping that in asking for Murder 2, the jury will see manslaughter as a reasonable compromise and convict on that lesser included offense.
did they include a manslaughter charge on him?






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not a chance

I work in this world and, while I'm not saying it isn't understandable due to the reality of what happens in our world, LEO in general are less likely to give the benefit of the doubt to a black man over a white man.






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if traytray was a white teen and GZ was a middle aged black woman, what happens?





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WDE24
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did they include a manslaughter charge on him?

No, but as I understand it in FL, they request the judge instruct on lesser included offenses and the jury can convict on these.

Although I haven't gotten a clear answer on this and have heard conflicting info.






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WDE24
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if traytray was a white teen and GZ was a middle aged black woman, what happens?

Good question. Woman likely gets the benefit of the doubt from LEO with self defense and is not charged.






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So did GZ pull his gun, then the fight broke out? Sorry I haven't been following the trial that closely





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