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Why all this controvery about the Man of Steel ending *SPOILERS*

I finally saw Man of Steel last night and saw the controversial scene where Superman snaps General Zod's neck. A lot of so-called "purists" apparently had a huge problem with that because Superman (apparently) doesn't kill. And yet I seem to remember in Superman II where Superman crushes the hand of a mortal General Zod, picks him up, and throws him into a bottomless pit with a big arse smirk on his face. At least in this one Superman showed quite a bit of remorse after he did the deed.




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re: Why all this controvery about the Man of Steel ending *SPOILERS*
Those people are crazy.
The ending was fine.
Given an impossible choice, Supes made the decision to save the many.


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Because the Internet lets people bitch about everything. And some people want to bitch about everything.


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And yet I seem to remember in Superman II where Superman crushes the hand of a mortal General Zod, picks him up, and throws him into a bottomless pit with a big arse smirk on his face. At least in this one Superman showed quite a bit of remorse after he did the deed.


That one did come off like he enjoyed it huh?

I didn't mind him killing Zod at all other than I would like to see Zod again in a sequel, or that Superman probably could've just used his hands to cover Zod's eyes and block the heat vision.

That being said, how would Superman ever imprison Zod if he had just beat him down and kept him alive?


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Superman also kills on rare occasions in the comic


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Those people are crazy.
The ending was great.
Given an impossible choice, Supes made the decision to save the many.


FIFY


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I wonder if the WWII era Supes killed a bit more.


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I was a bit torn at first. Superman killing someone in such a blatantly graphic fashion was new to me, but it's kinda growing on me.

If they have Lex Luthor in the sequel, I expect him to use the murder as a weapon against Supes.


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Superman also kills on rare occasions in the comic



Quick derail. This issue of Action had an outstanding story where Superman's back is against the wall and you think he will have to kill the bad guy to win, and still figures out an alternative.

Again, I don't mind him killing but this thread made me think of this comic.

Image: http://pmcalisterjr.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/action-comics-775-2004-2nd-printing-cover-page.jpg width=300


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i was very much surprised in the ending in that he killed general zod. with that said i liked ending. killing but being remorseful and saddening that he had to take a life to save everyone. great movie overall.


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That didn't surprise me as much as the collateral damage that he seemed to not really care about.


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A lot of so-called "purists" apparently had a huge problem with that because Superman (apparently) doesn't kill.


-Superman doesn't kill

-Zod should have been invulnerable (they sort of left us to glean that - Superman's been here his whole life, he's stronger and Zod's full invulnerability hadn't quite kicked in yet.)

However, I felt the movie conveyed the reluctance and remorse Superman felt. Mrs. Midnight did not like the ending, because "Superman doesn't kill."

Personally, I would have preferred putting Zod back in the Phantom Zone (which was Nolan's preference, as well, apparently). However, IF Superman is going to have to kill, MoS handled it about as well as possible.
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Posted by PillageUrVillage That didn't surprise me as much as the collateral damage that he seemed to not really care about.
I will give you that. I kept wondering why Supes didn't get Zod out of the city at all cost.


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That didn't surprise me as much as the collateral damage that he seemed to not really care about.


That's just "modern" filmmmaking. They have to justify these budgets, so they have to destroy a city with a lot of nausea-inducing, fakish, cartoony CGI (although MoS was fairly well done).

They also have to have the obligatory scenes to show their 3D prowess. I don't watch the films in 3D, but I understand the market they're trying to reach.


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That's just "modern" filmmmaking. They have to justify these budgets, so they have to destroy a city with a lot of nausea-inducing, fakish, cartoony CGI (although MoS was fairly well done).




This sounds so crotchety


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re: Why all this controvery about the Man of Steel ending *SPOILERS*
It was weird bc not even batman killed his villains directly in the Nolan series


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I think Synder said that the killing of Zod will set up the sequels for Superman to question his method. IMO, moving forward, you'll see the "old" Superman who doesn't want to kill anyone.


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Ace Midnight
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This sounds so crotchety


I call them like I see them.

Snyder is not on my "trusted" filmmaker list, but Nolan is. I gave the movie a chance. I give it a C minus. It would have been better if it cut down on the unnecessarily extended CGI scenes and not made the Kryptonians look like members of the Brotherhood of Steel from the Fallout game series.

Likewise, Jackson is on my trusted filmmaker list - he could have made The Hobbit better by severely cutting the Goblin mine battle (or eliminating it altogether, Game of Thrones-style).

It is what it is.


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-Zod should have been invulnerable (they sort of left us to glean that - Superman's been here his whole life, he's stronger and Zod's full invulnerability hadn't quite kicked in yet.)


I don't think this argument works because shouldn't the kryptonians (sp?) be able to kill each other? Someone already mentioned how Superman crushed Zod's hand in Superman II and no one questioned it. So why can they break other bones but can't snap a neck?


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the Internet lets people bitch about everything. And some people want to bitch about everything.


That would be a fine sig quote.


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