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barry
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity

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Interestingly, last year and this year, his four seam velo upticked as the season wore on:


He definitely appears to becoming a smarter pitcher.

It looks like buster made that tweet and this month he started cranking out 93-94 mph fastballs.


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VerlanderBEAST
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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He has a contract way beyond what he is actually worth.
are you stupid


TDawg1313
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
His velocity is descreasing, but the movement he has been getting on his pitches is insane. He also has fantastic control. He'll throw 92 mph fastballs that almost look like split-fingers.


Georgia Peach
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
What about Verlander? His FB has declined and his ERA rose, should the Tigers be concerned?


1ranter1
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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What about Verlander? His FB has declined and his ERA rose, should the Tigers be concerned?


Verlander has had some terrible luck. HIs BABIP is an insane .347. His K's are actually up, his HR rate is down and his ground ball rates are identical to last season. The only concern I see with him is that his walks are up over 3 per 9 IP. The only other season his walks were that high was 2008 which happens to be his only full season with an ERA over 4.


Georgia Peach
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
That is what I was wondering, I was just being lazy and didnt wanna look it up (his babip)


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D011ahbi11
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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Lincecums mechanics caught up with him

Actually losing 25 lbs caught up with him.


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biglil3
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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He has a contract way beyond what he is actually worth.

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are you stupid


how is that a dumb statement??? I guarantee he won't be a top 20 pitcher the last 2-3 yrs of his contract



SteveLSU35
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JabarkusRussell
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
I hate the Nintendo owners for fostering incompetence at every level from coaching to general managing.


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Alan Garner
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bbap
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
Honestly doesn't seem that drastic. 3 MPH over 5 years? Big deal.


VerlanderBEAST
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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how is that a dumb statement??? I guarantee he won't be a top 20 pitcher the last 2-3 yrs of his contract


Yeah I am sure he'll be a shell of himself when he's 33 years old.


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The Boat
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
I wish he pitched for somebody good.


Georgia Peach
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
The Yankees, Rangers, Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants, Nationals all need pitching help it seems


wickedretro
Member since Apr 2013
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
As someone who watches every single Mariners game, it isn't really a secret that Felix has made a point to take a tick or three of his velocity in favor of more movement of his pitches. He still dials it up to 95/96 on occasion but he's basically becoming Greg Maddux. I don't think it has anything to do whatsoever with potential arm troubles. Knock on wood


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barry
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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Honestly doesn't seem that drastic. 3 MPH over 5 years? Big deal.


Its 3 Mph in 3 years and he's down to 91 at age 27


castorinho
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
But a you pointed out earlier don't the results indicate that this is an intentional strategic move rather than arm fatigue.... Making it not that alarming?


barry
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
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But a you pointed out earlier don't the results indicate that this is an intentional strategic move rather than arm fatigue.... Making it not that alarming?


As long as its not a continuing trend. Mayb he levels out at 92, which is perfectly fine.


floridatigah
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re: The decline of Felix Hernandez' Velocity
I think that's what is happening. His velocity isn't really down again this year, it's just early. Almost all of his recent starts he's over 92, he started out the same way last year if you check out his game log on fangraphs

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