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You are in fact full of bull shite


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Here is your link CNN breaks down the numbers

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A Washington Post story from last December said administration "officials quietly directed immigration officers to bypass backlogged immigration courts and time-consuming deportation hearings whenever possible" in order to break the record for fiscal year 2010.




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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You are in fact full of bullshite


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Link? More than anyone prior, regardless.



Because Joe pointed the FEDs in the right direction. Good thing he did too, because the average FED border patrol agent can't find his own dick with both hands.






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So what was going on?


I've been looking at the racial profiling decision that was handed down Friday, and the facts appear to be:

1. That all stops were valid Terry stops, overwhelmingly on the basis of traffic infractions (i.e., they weren't pulling over people because they looked like illegals, they were pulling them over because they had probable cause based on a traffic infraction).

2. Pretext stops (stopping someone for a whole 'nother reason) based on a traffic infraction is a valid stop. Whren v. United States

3. The court then relies on equal protection claims and "disparate results regardless of discriminatory intent" on slapping down the traffic stops and ensuing citizenship inquiries by the police who stopped the vehicle.

(An aside here, too: I'm sure Arizona isn't overwhelmed with Chinese and Australians who have overstayed their visas or whatnot, it's a state bordering Mexico, it's entirely rational to believe that more Hispanics are going to be questioned about their citizenship status, but it matters not under the "disparate results regardless of discriminatory intent" rationale that liberals have cooked up through the years.)

The court also relies on a Ninth Circuit (San Francisco) opinion that holds that "Hispanic work crew, inability to speak English, proximity to the border, and unsuspicious behavior" were not reasonable suspicion to further investigate that the detainees were illegally in the United States.

As an aside, I think it's really a stretch to think that a truck loaded with Hispanic yard workers who can't speak a lick of English is not reasonable suspicion that the people might be in this country illegally, but it's the Ninth Circuit, which hasn't been known to live in reality.



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cwill, I remember that "record number of deportations" story. You do realize they were including interceptions at the border and "turning them around" as "deportations" to cook that number, don't you?





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SavageOrangeJug
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Arpaio should be in prison, he's a thug cop. He's pulling over many Hispanics who are American citizens and questioning their citizenship. He's a gov thug on par with the current admin but since his thuggery is in line with your beliefs you excuse it.

You are either a liar, an idiot, or uninformed. I suspect it is a combination of all three.






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Ponchy Tiger
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Profiling Latinos? I wonder how many Nigerians, Scandinavians, Belgians, Tunisians are roaming Maricpo County?



I do agree with his methods. All of this bull shite about profiling is getting ridiculous. Profiling is a legit effect way of policing. I can just see if this was 60 years ago and we were searching for suspected Nazis who had gotten out of Europe. Would we not look for white germamic ppl? I guess we couldn't have done that because they are of a certain race or ancestory.






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He should run for the Republican ticket.





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As an aside, I think it's really a stretch to think that a truck loaded with Hispanic yard workers who can't speak a lick of English is not reasonable suspicion that the people might be in this country illegally, but it's the Ninth Circuit, which hasn't been known to live in reality.


Just an aside to your aside, they may get reversed often, but the Ninth sure as hell sides with the little guy almost all the time. Those are some right protecting jurists on the left coast. I kinda like it.






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Arpaio is awful - you could be a citizen and hispanic and he'd still hate you.

I agreed with this part - the rest went crazy.
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Arpaio should be in prison, he's a thug cop. He's pulling over many Hispanics who are American citizens and questioning their citizenship.



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GeauxxxTigers23
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you could be a citizen and hispanic and he'd still hate you. 


Im calling bull shite. I'd be willing to bet half of his deputies are hispanic.






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“During raids, [Arpaio's Criminal Enforcement Squad] typically seizes all Latinos present, whether they are listed on the warrant or not. For example, in one raid CES had a search warrant for 67 people, yet 109 people were detained. Fifty-nine people were arrested and 50 held for several hours before they were released. Those detained, but not on the warrant, were seized because they were Latino and present at the time of the raid. No legal justification existed for their detention.”

So many reports have been done on him - he does a good job as he's crazy.



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GeauxxxTigers23
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You got a link to that. Because it sounds like a hit piece. What kind of raid was it? If I go to a place where there are 67 suspected criminals and there are 109 people there everyone is getting detained until I can verify the their IDs. The justification being that they were associating with criminals or criminal activity.





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Old Money
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Just google "joe arpaio racist" and you can read stuff for hours.
Not here to change anyones minds because frankly, I could care less about what happens in Arizona.






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GeauxxxTigers23
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How many of his deputies are of Hispanic descent would you guess?





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Old Money
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No clue - wold be interesting to find out.





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GeauxxxTigers23
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I'd wager it's the majority. I don't have a link and imagine it would be pretty hard to find. But if hispanics are the majority of his deputies wouldn't that suggest he's not a racist but rather really doesn't like illegal immigrants.





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Old Money
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I just know he harasses a lot of people and takes things too far. Granted AZ has a HUGE illegal immigration problem. FBI's been investigating this guy and he's being sued by the U.S. Department of Justice. We'll see what comes out of this.





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