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SammyTiger
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I'm guessing Satan or the Joos

Or something really crazy






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CadesCove
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was Mohammed really married to a nine year old girl child, and did he beat her regularly and did he die cursing the Christians?


If we live like Jesus, we are all perfect, peaceful and happy. Live like Muhammad and we would all be in jail.

I know good Muslim folk, but I can't get my mind around much of what the Quran espouses. I know bad Christian folk, but they can't get their mind around what the Bible espouses.






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Vols&Shaft83
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Your just white washing your faith's past


Hmmm? My Faith?

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Nazi's used their own version of Christianity to promote white European nationalism.


Which is an indictment of Government (The entity whom committed the act), not of Religion (A tool the entity manipulated to commit the act).

Think "Guns don't kill, people Do".







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Vols&Shaft83
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Islam was created by our real enemies, which are way older than we are used to thinking. Islam is nothing but a tool. Think deeper people>





Yep these guys:





WE frickED






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A2
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The holocaust? Oh i forgot germany stopped being christian.
How many protestants were killed by catholics and vice versa. Does it not count when you are killing each other?

Want to talk terrorists? Look up Anders Behring Breivik. Killing in the name of white christian europe, thinks he is a modern Knight Templar.


There were definitely Christians involved in aspects of the Holocaust. In fact some scholars think that the Christian indifference-- which is truly where Christian leadership failed during the Holocaust-- was caused not by Anti-Semitism, but Christianity's underlying feelings of the Jews and how they persecuted their Christian savior, Jesus.

I think that is at least a valid point regarding the Christians view of Jews, but I think much more important factors played into the Nazi's murder of Jews, Gypsies, Russians, and the innocents and troops brought into the European theater.







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SammyTiger
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Which is an indictment of Government (The entity whom committed the act), not of Religion (A tool the entity manipulated to commit the act).

Think "Guns don't kill, people Do".


Politcal interrest always abuse faith. it is a lot easier to convince someone to strap a bomb to their chest if G-d wants it than if the conservative or liberal movement wants it.






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LakeViewLSU
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RCDfan1950
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Let me see... Warped version of religion being used to spur people to commit acts of hate. Sound familiar.


Well, there ya go. Equivocating the CONCEPTS of Jesus Christ (Christianity) with those of Muhammad, and condemning Christian CONCEPTS as being no better on the basis of the beliefs and actions of FLAWED INDIVIDUALS (Christians)...is a deductive non-starter.

Jesus came, set the bar...and split, for a couple thou, to let things simmer. He predicted that we wouldn't meet the bar, and that "knowledge would increase", there would be "war in Heaven" (debate on First Principles), and that we'd implode big time...and that after that implosion, the vision (Second Coming) would come to the Earth. In the (spritual?) form of Jesus Christ (the CONCEPT). And that the Earth would prosper for a 1000 years.

Now there aint anybody that knows what will happen. But one thing is for sure, the POSSIBILITY of the above happening...is pretty darn high. The symbolism is Jesus words, parables and action lines right up with a high probability of possible outcomes. Coincidence? Chaos? Divine Order? Whatever.

One thing is for sure, about half way through some high-minded revolution or nuclear world war...we are going to hope that the Good Lord keeps to His Word..."but for the elect's (good guys) sake, these days will be shortened".

Another day behind the 'plow'. Earth 2013!









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Fat Bastard
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One side kills innocent people with planes and drones,


yep completely INTENTIONAL right?

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the other side kills innocent people with IED's.


ahh yes the side that consists of 90% of all terrorist groups and probably 99% of all terror attacks. again name me a so -called religion that teaches what islam does in regards to mohammed wanting them to practice abrogation of the meccan surahs with the medina surahs. not too mention the hadiths and sunnahs. name me a religion that has those teachings by their "prophet".







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Fat Bastard
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Well, there ya go. Equivocating the CONCEPTS of Jesus Christ (Christianity) with those of Muhammad, and condemning Christian CONCEPTS as being no better on the basis of the beliefs and actions of FLAWED INDIVIDUALS (Christians)...is a deductive non-starter.



how ya like that moral relativism?






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RCDfan1950
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A mis-guided psychoses FB. Individuals believing that by *equalizing* all ideas, religion, ideologies and economic outcomes...it will lead to peace and prosperity. Merit, judgement and the motivation to strive for perfection is out the door, for those at the top and the bottom. Apathy in the middle.

Hell, the *government* may as well just make a genetic blueprint and begin the cloning process. Make all of humanity identical. Peace and prosperity.

Fascinating time.







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Matrixman
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I believe the slaughter of that young British Soldier (and father) in London in the last few days has awakened the world to the threat we face from these animals. You CANNOT peacefully coexist with these muslims. At some point, they will kill you.......AND I DO MEAN YOU!

Remember this....there are those in this administration and the liberal press who would try to convince us the chance of being a victim of a Islamic terrorist (excuse me - work place violence) attack is small. I would argue for the families of the victims of the "terrorist" attack at the Boston Marathon and at Fort Hood the threat was real and tragic.

IMPEACH BARACK OBAMA.

Then nuke the bastards!



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Matrixman
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I agree with your response......

Relativsm.....the great evil of this day. Our culture is infected with this cancer....and I don't see things ending well for those who oppose it. This cancer (relativism) is entrenched in the collective mind of America, and don't see how it can be changed. I once thought the mainline Christian Religions could do it (change America) ....but now I'm convinced these have slid into a kind of religious relativism.

Welcome to the NEW America where "Truth" is relative.

Best way to describe what's happening in America is that we're witnessing a replay of "Balthasar's Prophetic Banquet".







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Revelator
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I once thought the mainline Christian Religions could do it (change America) .



Why? The bible is very specific predicting how the end will come about with Jesus himself lamenting whether he would even find faith when he returned. Plus he also proclaimed that the way to destruction was broad and many would find it, but narrow is the way that leads to life and few find that as well. The present day events shouldn't surprise anyone who has studied to show himself approved. No personal slight intended.






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rbWarEagle
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Well, there ya go. Equivocating the CONCEPTS of Jesus Christ (Christianity) with those of Muhammad, and condemning Christian CONCEPTS as being no better on the basis of the beliefs and actions of FLAWED INDIVIDUALS (Christians)...is a deductive non-starter.


Religion itself is flawed. Drawing your morals and ethics from an ancient text and then making that text the end-all-be-all in your mind is a big problem. There is a moral landscape with a lot of peaks coming from different ways in which people live their lives. Not all ways different from YOUR way of life are bad, they are just different. We, as humans, should be using science and logic to find out what is best for human (and animal) life to sustain on Earth and that should be what fuels our societies... not religion. As long as you think that "they believe in the wrong god", you'll continue to allow your ego to separate yourself from the other, furthering the madness.
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Jesus came, set the bar...and split, for a couple thou, to let things simmer

What a strange thing for a deity to do, don't you think? Why up and leave when shite is still hitting the fan every single day? Why make human existence some game?

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Now there aint anybody that knows what will happen. But one thing is for sure, the POSSIBILITY of the above happening...is pretty darn high.


It's really not, though.

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One thing is for sure, about half way through some high-minded revolution or nuclear world war...we are going to hope that the Good Lord keeps to His Word..."but for the elect's (good guys) sake, these days will be shortened".


Ahh, there you have it. The reason for religion. Fear. Fear of death, the unknown. Fear of the other. Our government is a problem, religion pervading it is an even bigger problem, and our lack of intelligence when approaching new issues in this world as a whole is probably the biggest problem. Crazy, in any form, should not have a respected opinion.






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RCDfan1950
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No fear in me, buddy. Respect...for sure.

And my philosophical logic only considers "ancient text" as such relates to philosophical truths.

The fact that LIMITATION EXIST in all forms of relative entities and life forms...certifies the existence of *evil*. The matter of semantically labeling the effects (of limitation or evil) don't change those negative effects. Limitation of wisdom, or the will to act upon wise conclusions which may be contrary to Natural instincts ASSURE negative and undesirable outcomes. And the complex psychological profiles of extremely complex beings - all with free will, throwing mud up on the wall of experience - pretty much reflects exactly what we now witness. Seeming Chaos on a unimaginable scale...but what may be a Divine Order on an unimaginable scale.

And key to the old adage that 'power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely' can be easily confirmed by the current crop of power holders. So, in theory, if Jesus (as the limited manifestation of the Whole/God) had blown his ability to withstand the effects of great power and become corrupt...end of game. Creation of limited beings (humanity) would have been a non-starter.

Only the Whole is perfect and non-corruptible. How could it be otherwise...as only ONE option exists. As such, limited beings are innately evil. And as such, the more knowledgeable and powerful they become...the more apt to corruption. That might be why we don't see em flying all around the Universe. It'a a Catch-22; but NOT without a fix, if the Gospel holds true. That would be the "ancient text" that you speak of...as they allude to what is a creative AXIOM...such being that creation - in effect - created LIMITATION, I.e., *evil*. And that the Creator visited us with a fix...Salvation, for them that take it. Discount that axiom...and...well...give it a whirl.

The high probablility of parallel universes assures perfect (philosophical) justice for ALL concerned. As each individual can end up creating their own relative and subjective 'heaven' or 'hell'. What is it that defines an individual anyway. Is it not their character...feelings...values...intent. The body comes and goes...but those definitive character aspects are uniquely SPIRITUAL, and as such, the specific combinations - which define specific individuals - are ABSTRACT, and therefore eternal. Just a matter of *future* occurrence...and progression/evolution...I.e., 'going to heaven'. And given the Relativity of Time and Infinity...a virtual fait accompli. You comin 'back' to take up being whomever you were, when you left off. Period. Reap what you sew. Perfect justice.

All this is out of the box philosophical speculation for sure, but it's fair and just. And would be the ideal. And the Ideal is exactly what WOULD exist, if an ideal Creator existed as an infinite and loving Intellect.

Bottom line, re your assertion that "religion itself is flawed"...nope, certainly not the ESSENTIAL philosophical base.

As it has been recorded, interpreted and acted up...you betcha...that has been flawed. And why not. THAT'S THE POINT of *religion*' to fix the flaw.

I gotta paint. Good luck.







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One side kills innocent people with planes and drones, the other side kills innocent people with IED's. both sides say the other is evil.



Do you think both sides are randomly targeting innocent people for the purpose of furthering their cause?

In other words, do you not see the distinction, or just do not think it is meaningful?






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I can coexist with anybody. I'm pretty easy-going.





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I just want to know what people here believe so please answer this question.
If America pulled all Thier troops home and got out of these backwards arse countries, do some here really believe that Muslims ,not all but millions will just leaveAmerica and Americans alone? Do some here really believe this?






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Stuttgart Tiger
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The drunken bacon-eater wing, I can deal with.


It's Jesus, hickory smoked baby-back ribs, hot Southern women and iced cold Budweiser Beer for this here radical!!

I see how I can exist with Islam, but I don't see how Islam can exist with me. Tough to win over someone who wants to cut your head off and make a public display of your corpse.






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