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rutiger
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2 chainz latest album is better than all jay-z stuff


Im officially done with you, you're a retard.

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but he's not as big as kanye lil wayne or eminem as far as being famous


Yup, you dumb.


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trillhog
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just stfu, nobody said this albums didn't go platinum, you are so out of the conversation now, you aren't even making sense, no i don't think sales me the GOAT, but you are saying he has been giving the title and i ask where you heard that you've yet to reply. Like i said Eminem is bigger than Jay-z you can tell just by him having more records sales.

LINK

so lets do one thing at a time. do you think jay-z is more famous than lil wayne or Eminem?

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do you think jay-z is more famous than lil wayne or Eminem?


more famous? like on tmz more? more random people that dont listen to hip hop know him? absolutely 100% jay-z is more famous than eminem and lil wayne. you said it yourself earlier in the thread. married beyonce, owned small portion of the nets. the dude is worth like $500 million.


and what the hell does being "famous" have to do with being the goat?


trillhog
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I give up, you are just to stupid to argue. All i want to know is who told you that Jay-Z is widely considered the GOAT. We are talking about being famous, b/c that's basically where you are getting y our idea that he's the GOAT and if we are going by that measure, then Eminem and Lil wayne should have it.
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All i want to know is who told you that Jay-Z is widely considered the GOAT.


sorry ive been following hip hop more than 2 years and know the history of it.

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you are just to stupid to argue





says the guy whos worried about who is more "famous" and cant even get that right.

peace out trollhog.


trillhog
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and once again.... nothing.


bobbyray21
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Jay Z did the soundtrack to American Gangster


Oh did he now?


Rittdog
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Not here to pick sides on either argument.

But now that I remember...

Lil Wayne was viewed as bigger (outside of the media) than Jay Z from about 2004-2008.

Now this isnt to say Wayne's mixtapes/The Carter,etc etc. Was better than early Jay Z or Blueprint...

But during that period of time....Wayne was on fire. I did like the American Gangster soundtrack. It kind of went back to "Old Jay Z" imo and was very solid.

But yea....

I Jay Z is probably the most accomplished rapper of all time (Lasted 3 phases of Hip Hop: Street Hip Hop, Made Man Hip Hop, and CEO Hip Hop) so credit to him for his longevity. Dont think that makes him the GOAT or top 3 imo.

He's the Kobe Bryant/Tim Duncan of Hip Hop, but gets MJ hype..
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trillhog
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i only see one jay song on the gatsby soundtrack too, but i could be wrong.


bobbyray21
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Oh yeah, I forgot you and your brother are the authority on the rap music hierarchy.


Such value-added posts.


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bobbyray21
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i only see one jay song on the gatsby soundtrack too, but i could be wrong.


And he didn't do the American Gangster soundtrack.

Heady used to simply bring nothing to the table. Now he actually removes things from the table.


trillhog
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i really don't have a dog in this fight, i like all these people we've been talking about, but none of them are my favorites, i just want to know who anointed Jay-Z the GOAT, and i can't seem to get an answer.


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And he didn't do the American Gangster soundtrack.


Yes he did. You are a dumbass.
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rutiger
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[quote]And he didn't do the American Gangster soundtrack. [/quote


Wtf???

Yes he did.


bobbyray21
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Not here to pick sides on either argument.

But now that I remember...

Lil Wayne was viewed as bigger (outside of the media) than Jay Z from about 2004-2008.

Now this isnt to say Wayne's mixtapes/The Carter,etc etc. Was better than early Jay Z or Blueprint...

But during that period of time....Wayne was on fire. I did like the American Gangster soundtrack. It kind of went back to "Old Jay Z" imo and was very solid.

But yea....

I Jay Z is probably the most accomplished rapper of all time (Lasted 3 phases of Hip Hop: Street Hip Hop, Made Man Hip Hop, and CEO Hip Hop) so credit to him for his longevity. Dont think that makes him the GOAT or top 3 imo.

He's the Kobe Bryant/Tim Duncan of Hip Hop, but gets MJ hype..




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bobbyray21
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Wtf???

Yes he did.


Try again.


rutiger
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Posted by bobbyray21 quote: Wtf??? Yes he did. Try again.


Semantics, but fine. He made a concept album based on the movie, but it wasnt the official soundtrack.


bobbyray21
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Yes he did. You are a dumbass.



Wow.

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It is Jay-Z's last solo album for Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella, and his first concept album, which was inspired by the film of the same name.



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In 2006, Greg Calloway was approached by producer to produce a soundtrack for the film. He presented the idea to Atlantic Records chairman Craig Kallman, and one of the company's artists, T.I., got an acting role in the film; but the deal did not go further because Universal Pictures own the rights to the film - “It was a Universal film and they were not going to give the soundtrack to WMG (Atlantic's parent company)”.[26] Thus Scott brought back for the music Marc Streitenfeld, who had worked with him in A Good Year. The composer stated that "the overall tone needed to be something bigger and darker" given the characters' strong personalities, and while not being the original intention, he added shades of blues and soul music to fit the 1970s setting.[27] The musical score for American Gangster was record between April and May 2007 by Streitenfeld, with the help of orchestrator Bruce Fowler and conductor Mike Nowak, using an 80-piece orchestra recorded in sections as well as acoustic pre-records, performed by Streitenfeld himself. Additional score material was composed and recorded by Hank Shocklee.[28]
The official soundtrack album for American Gangster was released by Def Jam Recordings within a week of the film's release. In addition to Streitenfeld and Shocklee's score material, the soundtrack album also features songs influenced by music in the 1960s and 1970s, including from blues and soul musicians such as Bobby Womack, The Staple Singers, Sam & Dave, and John Lee Hooker.[21] Grazer stated that "I wanted to introduce a visual and sonic world that is a contained entity of the '70s", and Scott felt it was vital to have “the brand of music that was Harlem at the time.”[23]
Denzel Washington pressed Grazer into inviting rapper Jay-Z to write the film's score, but the producer "just didn’t think there’d be enough for Jay-Z to do" given the intentions to do a soundtrack filled with 1970s music.[21] The film's trailer was already using Jay-Z's "Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)", and the rapper was invited to an advanced screening. The film had a profound resonance on the musician, who decided to create a concept album, also entitled American Gangster.[23] The rapper recorded tracks that were prompted by specific scenes in the film. It was speculated that the album's release in conjunction with the film would attract a young audience and help Universal Pictures generate profits to recover from the film's troubled development history.[21] According to Jay-Z:
"It was like I was watching the film, and putting it on pause, and giving a back story to the story. It immediately clicked with me. Like Scarface or any one of those films, you take the good out of it, and you can see it as an inspiring film.



From here on out you will be referred to as "baggahammers".



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bobbyray21
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Semantics, but fine. He made a concept album based on the movie, but it wasnt the official soundtrack.


Semantics?

Making a concept album based on the movie and making the movie's soundtrack aren't in the same ballpark. They're not even in the same league. Hell, they're not even playing the same sport.


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bobbyray21
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Yes he did. You are a dumbass.



Baggahammers. hahahaha.


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