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Jaydeaux
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The purpose of this thread is to show LSU ranking low against other teams in conference, which is true. BUT, the stature of their players changes perception.


So, it's not what but who that defines control? So we should compare LSU v your perception of Les' control v other programs?

yes it's true many will never give Les a fair shake so you're mind is made up you don't need any facts?

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Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?


So where has Les lost control more than these other coaches?



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funnystuff
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LSUfan4444
You strike me as a person who thinks much more highly of his intellect than others do.

That may not ultimately be true, but it's just an observation. Point being, your argument is not working at all



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TheDoc
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What should the measuring stick be if not for arrests?





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EarthwormJim
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Comparing them directly to A&M helps your point, but different than this thread. The purpose of this thread is to show LSU ranking low against other teams in conference, which is true. BUT, the stature of their players changes perception.


What? Florida, UGA, Bama, A&M have all had guys arrested that were high profile and went on to be 1st round draft picks.






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Hurricane Mike
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I'm pretty god damn sure according to ESPN and other media outlets LSU has more arrests than all other
SEC teams combined.

Your data must be flawed






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TheDoc
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Point being, your argument is no working at all


It's completely foolish






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LSUfan4444
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It's not but these guys that want to blame Les don't care


How is it not fair to judge Miles for discipline problems of players on his team under his watch?

I'm not blaming him at all for TM or what he did, but come on, he had major issues while playing for Miles at LSU. They were handles, but still issues that got alot of press which will lead to a perception.

You case should rely on the fact that perception is not reality, not that Mathieu's struggles shouldn't be attributed while playing for Miles.






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LSUfan4444
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He was arrested AFTER he was kicked off the team


Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?



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TheDoc
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Miles isn't a god damned babysitter.

Rules are in place. Most things are handled internally.

3 arrests. 3.

In 3 years. All three coming from two bar fight incidents.






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TexasTiger1185
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What? Florida, UGA, Bama, A&M have all had guys arrested that were high profile and went on to be 1st round draft picks.


Those don't count either. They aren't high enough profile, and aren't lsu players. So they don't help his argument.


I posted about this in a thread the other day on Poli board.

Florida set an NCAA record in 2007 with 11 arrests. But their Heisman Hero made Urban like a coach who recruits high character guys.






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TheDoc
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Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?


Tell me of your inside knowledge of the lsu football program

If we can't measure discipline by arrests, what do we measure it with?






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TheDoc
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11 arrests in 2007 for Florida and tebow won the heisman







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Jaydeaux
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It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.





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TheDoc
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It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.


Boom

Les has had no qualms about dismissing players.

Perilloux was never arrested. He was kicked off the team though.

Mathieu was kicked off the team then Arrested.






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LSUfan4444
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Is this the only measuring stick of control for a head coach? yes or no?


Thing is, if you say no...it hurts you're argument. If you say yes, you're wrong.

You're in a real pickle here.



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TexasTiger1185
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It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.


I say this all the time. Les miles has made it pretty clear that he WILL kick off his best player.

He has set that precedent with guys like Perriloux and Mathieu






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TheDoc
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God damn man, you're dumb as dog shite.





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Those are not high profile guys

LSUFBPAOOC



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TheDoc
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You're in a real pickle here.


You're dumb as shite. I'm in no pickle you fricking moron.






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LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)


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It's a pretty damn objective one. I'd say how many players get dismissed if we're talking LSU b/c Les actually gets rid of guys. Other coaches not so much.


Boom

Les has had no qualms about dismissing players.

Perilloux was never arrested. He was kicked off the team though.

Mathieu was kicked off the team then Arrested.



Completely agree.






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