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LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)

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TigerBait2008


If you can't grasp the difference, you're ignorant and just don't care.

In three years to have issues with three high profile players in the off-season is going to seem worse because it gets more attention.


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TigerBait2008
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
So because of who it was we can blame Miles?


TheDoc
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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it's going to feel/look different


Only because you're an LSU fan


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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
It's obvious we need to stop recruiting players that have first names that start with the letter "J".


EarthwormJim
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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but when it's three high profile players like this with arrests or conduct issues, it's going to feel/look different.


That lists of players that have been arrested on first glance contains at least 4 first round draft picks, not to mention a Heisman trophy winner in Manziel.



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TheDoc
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That lists of players that have been arrested on first glance contains at least 4 first round draft picks, not to mention a Heisman trophy winner in Manziel.


Bingo


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LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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Wasnt on the team when he was arrested



I'm not looking at the straight numbers, but rather perception and why it feels different.

The perception of Miles isn't just based off the arrest number, but a perception of a lack of control....which runs deeper than just arrests...IE, Mathieu.

Look man, I agree with you. You're trying to back your case with stats, I get it. Thats what stat guys do. I'm just saying stats don't always tell the whole story.

To not include the Mathieu drama in a discussion about Miles and his control over the team because he wasn't on the team when he got arrested is just turning a blind eye to something very obvious.


LSUfan4444
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That lists of players that have been arrested on first glance contains at least 4 first round draft picks, not to mention a Heisman trophy winner in Manziel.

One 1 team?


LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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Only because you're an LSU fan


Not at all...because they're high profile guys from the same team in a short span.



TheDoc
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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perception


Doesn't equal reality when you look at the numbers objectively.

Although when did T BOB get his DUI? 2009?


LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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So because of who it was we can blame Miles?


I never said anything of the sort.


EarthwormJim
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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One 1 team?


No, but that's more first round draft picks and heisman winners than LSU has arrested. The guys on that list aren't a bunch of scrubs.


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TheDoc
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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Not at all...because they're high profile guys from the same team in a short span.


Like joekel and manziel?


TigerBait2008
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Like joekel and manziel?


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danfraz
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
Wait the rant said miles has no control of the program


Oh wait the rant




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Kingwood Tiger
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
Texas A&M:
Johnny Manziel (June 2012)
Kirby Ennis (Feb 2013)
Kyle Mangan (Aug 2011)
Ray Marshall (Dec 2012)
Jordan Richmond (Dec 2012)



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LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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Doesn't equal reality when you look at the numbers objectively

Anyone who has been around sports long enough knows that stats don't tell the whole story.

You're not looking at things objectively because you are dismissing the entire Mathieu cluster-F.

You want to back your point, I get it....don't try and convince people the Mathieve debacle didn't happen under Miles' watch.




Jaydeaux
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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The perception of Miles isn't just based off the arrest number, but a perception of a lack of control....which runs deeper than just arrests...IE, Mathieu.


Ok include Mathieu, we're still one of the lowest.


LSUfan4444
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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
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Not at all...because they're high profile guys from the same team in a short span.


Like joekel and manziel?


And A&M is getting hammered for it, as will LSU. Deservedly so. Doesn't matter if it is worse or not, it looks worse.


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