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jack6294
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He came out to my place to copy the design of the office. We used the same architect





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Grassy1
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I'm definitely interested in the Kor solution, and will look into it further. Assuming success, what's the longevity? I tried some bleaching several years ago... I'm familiar with the type of pain...

For comparison sakes, assuming pretty dark staining, what's the best veneer material, what thickness is required? Approximate price per tooth, assuming several are being done?






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jack6294
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Longevity - you will always have to touch it up once a year for one week.

Lumineer type material .3mm - 1.0mm
they are chalk looking - great for photograph & TV
old fashioned feldspathic porcelain 1.2mm - 2.3mm.
Emax is a nice porcelain, less thickness needed than the old fashioned type

10 top teeth & 10 bottom teeth $20k -$30k



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Grassy1
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Lumineer type material .3mm - 1.0mm
they are chalk looking - great for photograph & TV


For almost 50 years I've practiced the no teeth smile, so photos are no big deal, and tv only occurs once a decade or less...

What's the best solution for face to face, closest to the real thing?

Is Lumineer a brand name?






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ruzil
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I'm definitely interested in the Kor solution, and will look into it further. Assuming success, what's the longevity? I tried some bleaching several years ago... I'm familiar with the type of pain...


In the Kor cases I have done, each patient was happy with the result. One patient did go on to get veneers, but her teeth were worn and not of a pleasing shape.

I think the Kor result will be long lasting, your teeth will pick up stain, but not from tetracycline, and you can touch up periodically with bleach.

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For comparison sakes, assuming pretty dark staining, what's the best veneer material, what thickness is required? Approximate price per tooth, assuming several are being done?


This is a difficult question to answer without seeing the case. Darker teeth need to be prepared more and lighter teeth less. We have some materials that can block out stain well, but they are more opaque and less esthetic. Price ranges vary, depending on quality of lab and material. The current case I am working on is $1100 per tooth. I've had good luck recently with a material called Emax, it has varying levels of opacity, and can be cut back for a more life like appearance.

FWIW, I find I am doing more Kor Whitening and less veneers lately and I think my patients benefit from this.






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jack6294
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ruzil is on the right track

the least dentistry is the best dentistry






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ruzil
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What's the best solution for face to face, closest to the real thing?

Bleach first, minimally prepared veneers, depending on darkness of tooth structure.

Is Lumineer a brand name?



Brand name and definitely not the best choice. This material is best used when teeth are smallish and have gaps that need to be closed. There are much better labs and ceramists available to do great looking work.






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ruzil
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the least dentistry is the best dentistry



Thanks Jack, that is my mantra. I think I got it from John Kois.






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jack6294
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I use the term Lunineers like us southerners use "Coke"
their are similar porcelains and techniques
Lumineer have long infomercial on at night
I refer to all very thin chalky veneers as Lumineers
I don't do them






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Grassy1
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I use the term Lunineers like us southerners use "Coke"
their are similar porcelains and techniques
Lumineer have long infomercial on at night
I refer to all very thin chalky veneers as Lumineers
I don't do them


So is 20-30k for the thin chalky stuff, or the good stuff?

How does one differentiate in discussing them?






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ruzil
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So is 20-30k for the thin chalky stuff, or the good stuff?

How does one differentiate in discussing them?


Maybe you should have a diagnosis first, determine your needs such as bleaching and/or veneers/crowns, and how many teeth need to be done so that a proper estimate can be given.

Spending some time with/finding a dentist you can trust would be a good starting point prior to getting fees. Just a little friendly advice.






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jack6294
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same price for them all
the choice is all about compromises
thin- less drilling, more expensive material, sometimes no temporaries
more tooth removed, greater chance of sensitivity, more natural looks

find some one you like and trust, saving a few thousand isn't worth it

ruzil is right, try Kor first

Man, you got you monies worth tonight!!
Two dentists consultations in one

BTW I hate doing veneers



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ruzil
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BTW I hate doing veneers


Come on man, that's harsh. Google shrink wrap technique for temporizing and you may change your tune.

I prefer not doing them, but it's nice to have it in your tool belt when needed.






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CCT
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What's painful about Kor whitening?





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ruzil
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What's painful about Kor whitening?



Your teeth get a little sensitive to cold during the process. It gets better after you're done, so no big deal.



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CCT
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I chew fairly soft ice pretty much the entire 8 hours that I work. Nervous habit. I need my teeth whitened, though, but I THINK it was said that it could be done with bleaching just a little longer than the normal process...nothing drastic like veneers or porcelain.





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ruzil
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Soft ice? Sonic rite? Don't ever chew ice. It's a terribly destructive habit for your teeth.





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CCT
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Not Sonic, but close. It keeps me from smoking too much and drinking too much coffee. That's why my teeth are pretty stained...smoking and coffee, and the edges of my molars are sharpened from the ice.





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Grassy1
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Free expert advice is much welcome, and I appreciate your time to share your expertise and experience.

Before I try anything (else), I will visit a few dentist. I agree with Jack that a few grand either way needn't sway me. Results are what I'm after.

That being said, I'm still interested in hearing from others of their experience with porcelain and now, Kor. I'll try to edit my title.

thanks again.






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MBclass83
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I had veneers put on my front top 6 teeth. After about a year they started falling off. Very stressfull. Would not recommend. I ended up having to put on caps. More money. More money.
My teeth were small, not stained.
If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't do it.
For you, I'd go with the painful Kor procedure and tough it out.
It hurts to be beautiful.






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