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Her best idea was the privatization of public housing





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She could give one hell of a speech. She received an honorary degree from LSU while I was in law school. I went to the ceremony with a couple of friends. Absolutely amazing, if you can get past the part where, about 3 minutes into her speech, our esteemed A.D. at the time got up from his seat dead center in the 3rd row and walked past about 25 people sitting between him and the end of the row, and proceeded down the aisle to the back of the room to take cell phone call.


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Why is it that leftists no any other way to speak about those with opposing views except in the most hateful, shrill, and virulent rhetoric?

Do you think leftists have a monopoly on this?






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Do you think leftists have a monopoly on this?


not a monopoly, but an overwhelmingly large majority.






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I understand that the vast majority of people on this board are right leaning conservatives and so will support what Thatcher did. However, what she did in Britain was essentially divide the nation into two. Millions of people lost their jobs in the North and other industrial areas whilst she plowed money into the city and the South. There is an argument that UK industry has not recovered since. Privatisation basically screwed a load of people over and the 90s was spent dealing with the mess of much of this privatisation. I also know that most here sees public ownership of industry as a policy of the far left but this is to misunderstand Britain. Most people see the welfare state reforms of post war Britain as necessary and hardly anyone would want to see things like the health service being put into private hands.

Also, just a correction on the Guardian. Although it is left leaning, it is also mainstream and is no way communist. There are papers such as the Socialist Worker and the Morning Star which the far left read.






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Do you think leftists have a monopoly on this?


not a monopoly, but an overwhelmingly large majority.


Yep.






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I understand that the vast majority of people on this board are right leaning conservatives and so will support what Thatcher did. However, what she did in Britain was essentially divide the nation into two. Millions of people lost their jobs in the North and other industrial areas whilst she plowed money into the city and the South. There is an argument that UK industry has not recovered since. Privatisation basically screwed a load of people over and the 90s was spent dealing with the mess of much of this privatisation. I also know that most here sees public ownership of industry as a policy of the far left but this is to misunderstand Britain. Most people see the welfare state reforms of post war Britain as necessary and hardly anyone would want to see things like the health service being put into private hands.



See, this is an example of a reasonable criticism of Thatcher. Unfortunately, the majority of vitriol emanating from the left is of the "Burn in Hell" variety... see actual politicians like George Galloway who are respected by the Left coming up with such shite.



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not a monopoly, but an overwhelmingly large majority.

That facts say otherwise.






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Millions of people lost their jobs in the North and other industrial areas whilst she plowed money into the city and the South. There is an argument that UK industry has not recovered since


What she did was necessary. Gov't employee unions are the ultimate conflict of interest and simply not sustainable.

It is amazing that in one corner we have the left whining about lost jobs in certain industries, while in other corners enviromental regs make it next to impossible for some of these industries to operate. We hear Maggie cost millions of people jobs because she cracked down on trade unions which were out of control. But we will never hear about the potential jobs never created becuase of opposition to things like fracking.



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No one respects George Galloway apart from young Muslims because he tells them what they want to hear.





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That facts say otherwise.


what facts? posters on this board? Maybe.

Do you have any link to right wingers celebrating the death of Hugo Chavez? Any examples of celeberties endorsing Obama treated the way Stacy Dash was for endorsing Romney?






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What she did was necessary. Gov't employee unions are the ultimate conflict of interest and simply not sustainable.


I'm not saying the unions were right. I am opposed to striking almost all of the time and they do have ridiculous control over the Labour Party. However, she basically decided to close down all industry without a solution. Mining towns went to crap over night and she left them to rot.






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She's a lot more popular in America than she was in England.





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She's a lot more popular in America than she was in England.


Kind of like how Barack Obama is a lot more popular in Europe than in the US.






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Do you have any link to right wingers celebrating the death of Hugo Chavez?

Without even looking, I'm sure that I can. Are you implying that American left-wing media personalities have been celebrating Thatcher's death? If so, please provide the links.

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Any examples of celeberties endorsing Obama treated the way Stacy Dash was for endorsing Romney?

I have no idea what you're talking about with regards to Stacy Dash, but I don't see how she's relevant to the debate since she's not even a politician, much less a head of state. We would be here all night if we start listing every attack on B-list enetertainers and media personalities.

Let's stick with attacks on heads of state by journalists in the MSM (eg. TV networks, major city newspaprers, nationally distributed magazines, etc).

The bottom line is that the atatcks on Obama with regards to his birthplace and his religion are unprecedented in American history, and not only did these attacks come from right-wing media personalities, but they came from sitting members of the U.S. Congress.






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Mining towns went to crap over night and she left them to rot.


you probably know more about the details than I do, and there is a harshness to progress or what Mill (i think it was JSM) called creative destruction. Certain industries are not sustainable. If jobs dry up in certain areas, people need to move, adapt or find a new industry to bring in. Just look at the fracking and shale booms in the US as one example.

And when you say mining, I assume you mean coal mining. It is not the ideology of Thatcher & Reagan, Friedman and Hayek that stands in the way of mining, coal or other wise today. Fear mongering about fracking does not come from the right either. That could be a huge boom to the UK, but people celebrating Thatcher's death are also almost certainly opposed to stuff like fracking, drilling and mining.






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No one respects George Galloway apart from young Muslims because he tells them what they want to hear.

But don't all politicians tell their constituents what they want to hear? For example, don't South Florida politicians tell Jews what they want to hear?






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Are you implying that American left-wing media personalities have been celebrating Thatcher's death


The US media no, I never said they were. I think we are on different pages if you are talking only about media and high level political figures.

I'm talking about the vitrol from the left and imo it vastly outnumbers the attacks from the right.

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The bottom line is that the atatcks on Obama with regards to his birthplace and his religion are unprecedented in American history, and not only did these attacks come from right-wing media personalities, but they came from sitting members of the U.S. Congress.


That is partisan politcally hackery and yes, that goes in equal parts both ways. That is not what I am talking about.

If Obama was attacked the way Clarence Thomas has been it would be viewed as racism.



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The bottom line is that the atatcks on Obama with regards to his birthplace and his religion are unprecedented in American history,

well i mean obama certainly had an outlier childhood, including living abroad in a muslim nation and attending a muslim school. i think the "obama is a muslim" argument is stupid, but let's not act like he grew up like basically every other president

his secrecy of his childhood is also a big part in the rumor mongering. i've read that it's very possible he never set foot on the mainland until he went to occidental college. that's strange when you think about our presidents of the past







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his secrecy of his childhood is also a big part in the rumor mongering. i've read that it's very possible he never set foot on the mainland until he went to occidental college. that's strange when you think about our presidents of the past

1) Obama never attended a Muslim school. In Indonesia, he attended a Catholic school from 1st thru third grades and a public school in fourth grade. If his mother had wanted raise him as a Muslim, would she have enrolled him in a Catholic school in predoninantly Muslim country?

2) What are these childhood secrets that you speak of?

3) I don't see what's so unusual about him never traveling to another state before he was an adult. I would venture to guess that quite a few Presidents never left their home state before they were adults, especially the ones who weren't sons of privilege. By the way, Obama is the second President with a foreign-born father. Chester A. Arthur, the 21st President, also had a foreign-born father. Also, Charles Curtis, the 31st Vice President, was born in a territory.







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