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DeltaDoc
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos

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If the Repubs were smart


I gave up on that when they ran McCain...

Politically speaking, Obamacare may be the biggest loser legislation in the nations history. It was only supported by democrats and Obama.

Yet still, I have full faith that any gains (politically speaking) the Rs have made relative to the law, may have already taken place.

Never ever underestimate the political ineptitude fo the republican party.

The one presidential candidate that had no footing to run against Obamacare was Romney...and that is who they ran. Amazing really.


doubleb
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
When the full weight of Obamacare becomes apparent it will be staggering.

We already see Dems like Landrieu trying to place blame on everyone but themselves for this crap of a deal.

Folks were lied to, and Mary was on the sid eof the liars.

Come election day people of La. need to remember that Mary sold us out. Mary voted against the will of the people here. It's time she paid the price.


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Champagne
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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What a joke - and people will fall for it and vote her back in


Yes they will. She will use the exact strategy that you suggest. She will bash Obamacare and position herself as not liking Obamacare -- and she will not be held to account by the electorate for the fact that she voted for it.


KeyserSoze999
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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If the Repubs were smart, they would start screaming from the watchtower about how a black man from Chicago went 2 out of 22


FIFY

we are talking the low information crowd


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Newbomb Turk
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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She will bash Obamacare and position herself as not liking Obamacare -- and she will not be held to account by the electorate for the fact that she voted for it.


In the normal, everyday scenario, she might be able to get away with it.

BUT, beginning YESTERF*CKINGDAY, the Republicans should be yelling from the rooftops that NOT ONLY did she vote for, BUT ALSO she was THE DECIDING F*CKING VOTE. If not for Katrina Mary, Odumbf*ckCare would not exist.

THAT is how it MUST be portrayed -- starting YESTERDAY.


TrueTiger
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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What a joke - and people will fall for it and vote her back in


Yes they will. She will use the exact strategy that you suggest. She will bash Obamacare and position herself as not liking Obamacare -- and she will not be held to account by the electorate for the fact that she voted for it.


Given our electorate, this is the most likely result.


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Interception
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Member since Nov 2008
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
Landrieu admits its going to crush small business. She helped bake the cake and we have to eat it. I really don't know how she survives this election with business turning against her. I think she is very vulnerable, especially if Cassidy can come out the primary without to many bruises.


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constant cough
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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If the Repubs were smart, they would start screaming from the watchtower about implementation of certain parts already being pushed back a year... Get the momentum rolling going into the 2014 mid terms.



If they were smart they'd just defund it.


Interception
Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts

re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
They can because its a tax with a "budget reconciliation" that needs 51 votes.


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Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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Please show me any federal program that has ever been repealed. I need the hope/encouragement.

Prohibition took it up the wazoo. Even after they spent tons of money enforcing it. Just like in the 1930s, a govt mandate coupled with a terrible economy = a huge backlash


ObamaCare is a dead duck just waiting to get retrieved by the dog


WildTchoupitoulas
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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It won't get repealed, but one can hope that it helps defeat many dems in the future. Forward

Imagine if ALL the democrats were defeated. Wouldn't that be great?

Oh God, please run all the democrats out of politics and give us a true one-party system. Amen.


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Providence Fan
Member since Nov 2008
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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Imagine if ALL the democrats were defeated. Wouldn't that be great?

Oh God, please run all the democrats out of politics and give us a true one-party system. Amen.




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NC_Tigah
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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Imagine if ALL the democrats were defeated. Wouldn't that be great?
Imagine if enough were defeated that Dems had to revert to running moderate and actually competent people like Sam Nunn, Bob Kerry, etc.


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Member since Nov 2008
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
All I want is gridlock.


mtntiger
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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ACA is the tip of the iceberg. Its primary function over the long term is to serve as the legislative vehicle through which single payer will come into existence.


In the words of the late Ed McMahon, "You are correct, sir."


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uway
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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s about corrupt, power hungry people wanting more control and power - over all of us - oh, and your money too.


It's about that and it's about reparations.


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DeltaDoc
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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All I want is gridlock.


+1. I don't trust either party to have total control...they have both proven to abuse it.

I think we are headed towards several decades of democrats controlling the executive branch due to demographics and the electoral college.

Conversely, I think we may be headed towards republican controlled congresses for a while as well, due to demographic shifts and isolation of democrat voters in cities. The senate could be iffy, but the House should remain in R control for a long time.


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Wolfhound45
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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Prohibition


I would love to use that as an example, but it was an amendment to the Constitution that was later overturned by another amendment. Not a self perpetuating government program designed to build reliance upon it.

But I am definitely in favor of defunding it.


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Newbomb Turk
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
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They can because its a tax with a "budget reconciliation" that needs 51 votes.


Can you explain this?

Can the House do it, or must it be in the Senate?

If all they need is 51 votes to defund it as a tax, THIS should be the main issue that all Republican senatorial candidates run on, i.e., a promise to defund Odumbf*ckCare. Let's put the Democrats on the defense and ask them why haven't they looked to do this ALREADY?


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tigerskin
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re: Dems Begin to Freak Over Obamacare Chaos
It looks like Landrieu appears to be nervous about Cassidy running against her


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