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SammyTiger
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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Margus Hunt


Not in the first but if he falls to a later pick for sure. He is a little undersized though

Bjorn Werner is small for a 3-4 DE.






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bonethug0108
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


That's exactly what I've been saying. There is potential for these draftees but we have young guys with potential and have already adapted to the nfl. Some of these draftees never will.

If what you need isn't there than you go with who you think has the most upside.






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BobBoucher
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


"Big and Fast" - Jim Haslett





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THRILLHO
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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He has never played the position


Only a handful of major college programs (UCLA, UGA, sort of Bama) play the 3-4, so that's going to apply to most anyone drafted. Hunt looks like a solid player, but he was 4 or 5 years older than most everyone he played against in college, so he had a pretty significant physical advantage over a bunch of guys that were still growing. He's going to be 26 this season and 30 coming off of his rookie deal.






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Geauxing for 3
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


I'm more interested to see whats going to happen to Will Smith. He has eaten himself into a 3-4 end, but I think Hicks and Jordan are better options. I just don't see paying him all that money to be a backup. I've seen him projected to play all over the line and even rush olb. LOL.





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KG5989
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


He's got good size with elite athleticism for a guy that size. Do NOT give me Hunt at 15. DO NOT.





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Suntiger
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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I'm more interested to see whats going to happen to Will Smith. He has eaten himself into a 3-4 end


I think it would have cost more to cut him, so they kept him on at a reduced rate and he will rotate in the line up. I just can't see him being an every down (or even majority of downs) player.






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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


Is it possible Will Smith is fat enough to play NT now?





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THRILLHO
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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I think it would have cost more to cut him,


We can free up his base salary ($3m) by cutting him after June 1st, but at that point it would be a result of either having to free his salary to sign draft picks, or there's a FA still available (feed me Seymour?) that we like more.






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DrunkHat
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


Jimmy Graham played 1 season of football before coming to the saints. I know its not the same position, but i believe the less they have been coached before the better off they are. Raw talent with top tier coaching should yeild the most ideal players.

He would be an asset on special teams with all those blocked kicks.

I just wouldnt count him out because of experience.






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Suntiger
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Jimmy Graham played 1 season of football before coming to the saints. I know its not the same position, but i believe the less they have been coached before the better off they are. Raw talent with top tier coaching should yeild the most ideal players.


Have you watched his highlight films? Graham is a phenominal athlete. Hunt has great size. Good in-line speed. Great power. He's stiff and upright though. He looks like the NFL version of Adam Morrison. Besides, he didn't do crap in college against bad competition.


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I just wouldnt count him out because of experience.


It's not JUST the lack of experience. Its age. He becomes our oldest defensive lineman besides Will Smith and Bunkley if we pick him.

And how long has Gallette or Wilson been trying to find their role? If Hunt takes the same amount of time, he will be 28-29 before he "figures it out" and has any impact.






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jralspanky
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


DE 1. Cameron Jordan
2. Akiem Hicks
3. Kenyon Coleman
4. Tyrunn Walker
5. Jay Richardson

NT 1. Brodrick Bunkley
2. Tom Johnson

ILB 1. Curtis Lofton
2. David Hawthorne
3. Jonathan Vilma
4. Chris Chamberlain
5. Will Herring

OLB 1. Will Smith
2. Junior Galette
3. Victor Butler
4. Martez Wilson
5. Greg Romeus

CB 1. Jabari Greer
2. Keenan Lewis
3. Patrick Robinson
4. Corey White
5. Ryan Steed

FS 1. Malcolm Jenkins
2. Isa Abdul-Quddus
3. Jerico Nelson

SS 1. Roman Harper
2. Rafael Bush







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goatmilker
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


Not bad except for...


OLB 1. Will Smith
2. Junior Galette
3. Victor Butler
4. Martez Wilson
5. Greg Romeus

Will Smith couldn't cover a statue coming out of the backfield.






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HMTVBrian2
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


Hicks resembles Richard Seymour physically and athletically. So that's why.





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AmosMosesAndTwins
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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He has never played the position and although I admit he showed flashes from the inside last year.


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Thoughts???


Complete yours first.






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DrunkHat
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


I see your points. Just don't think he'd be considerd a 1st/2nd round pick If he wasn't worth it.


This post was edited on 4/5 at 6:32 pm


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AmosMosesAndTwins
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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I see your points. Just don't think he'd be considerd a 1st/2nd round pick If he wasn't worth it.


Google Ryan Leaf.






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bonethug0108
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


Or remember JaMarcus Russell.





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DrunkHat
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


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Google Ryan Leaf.




Exact same thing






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DrunkHat
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re: Why is everyone sold on Akiem Hicks being a solid 3-4 DE?


What about Tony Gonzalez?





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