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rickgrimes
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Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook

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The Associated Press has dropped the phrase “illegal immigrant” from its stylebook, a victory for immigrant advocates who argue that the term is biased against the people it describes.

The move, Carroll writes, is part of a broader shift away from labeling people and towards labeling behavior — for example, referring to people “diagnosed with schizophrenia” instead of “schizophrenics.”

The AP has previously rejected the term “undocumented immigrants,” favored by some pro-reform activists, as inaccurate. Many people in the country illegally have documents, just not the right ones.

The argument against the term “illegal immigrants” is that human beings are not themselves illegal, their actions are. Advocates say that to label a person as “illegal” for one crime stigmatizes those hoping to gain American citizenship, many of whom came to the country as children.

So if they’re not illegal or undocumented, how should one refer to the 11 million people in the country illegally? The AP calls for detail: “Specify wherever possible how someone entered the country illegally and from where. Crossed the border? Overstayed a visa? What nationality?” Jonathan Rosa, a linguistic anthropologist at the University of Massachusetts, told NPR recently that he opts for the more concise ”unauthorized migrant.”

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udtiger
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
Control the language = control the debate.

Leftist 101


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Elcid96
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
Lol it biased against an accurate description! Oh help us! Once they control the language they control the argument. We are truly living in fricking bizzaro world!


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baybeefeetz
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
I was prepared to be bull shite about it, too, but I am kind of buying into part of the last quoted paragraph. People aren't illegal. Schizophrenics are schizophrenics.


poe tay toes
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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People aren't illegal.


the phrase isn't illegal person. it's illegal immigrant, which is a valid description of people who choose to immigrate illegally.


baybeefeetz
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
immigrants are people. The immigrant is not illegal. The act of emigrating with out following the legal procedures is illegal. I get that shorthand is useful and all, and my jimmies are not rustled by this at all, but logically, illegal immigrants doesn't work for me.

Call them criminal immigrants. Crimigrants. Problem solved. Everybody, you're welcome.



TrueTiger
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Call them criminal immigrants. Crimigrants. Problem solved. Everybody, you're welcome.


I was thinking "people who violate immigration laws" but I like your's better.


baybeefeetz
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
yours is much more specific (what kind of criminal?). I got it:

Crimmigrationists.



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los angeles tiger
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Call them criminal immigrants


That ain't going to work for the left. Criminal is a derogatory term that is used to hurt and stigmatize Only white, straight, rich, conservative evangelical Christians are allowed to be called criminals because they have caused all the problems on this earth and hurt everyone else and all of them are criminals.


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Choupique19
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
Finally, next on the agenda, can we please stop using the term rapist and murderer? We really shouldn't label people.


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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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The argument against the term “illegal immigrants” is that human beings are not themselves illegal, their actions are.



So if I cut up a person in pieces with an ax, I'm not really a killer. I just chose actions that happened to involve killing! Liberalism is a mental disorder.


los angeles tiger
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Finally, next on the agenda, can we please stop using the term rapist and murderer? We really shouldn't label people.


You have to be more specific. It's perfectly fine to call innocent Duke Lacrosse players rapists because they are priviledged, rich white boys. Kolby Bryant - no, you cannot call him a rapists. Kennedy men, you couldn't call rapists or a murderers. Kolby is black and hasn't said he is a conservative, which then he would be a muderous uncle Tom rapists. Kennedy's are great fighters of womens rights and rights of minorities and it is impossible for them to be such. Only conservatives are that.


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Aristo
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
No. You are not illegal, just your actions.


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RTR America
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
There was pretty funny running topic today on twitter mocking AP's decision.

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Flashers are now to be referred to as "unclothed performance artists" #APnamesforcriminals


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Population reduction specialists instead of mass murderer #APnamesforcriminals


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Home removal techs instead of burglars #APnamesforcriminals


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Drunk Drivers are "differently inebriated"


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Small batch, locally-produced injectable health aids (meth)


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DaGarun
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Call them criminal immigrants. Crimigrants. Problem solved. Everybody, you're welcome.



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Easy
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
While they are correct, they cited the wrong reason. In actuality it is the "immigrant" bit that is wrong. They should correctly be referred to as "illegal aliens" since by coming here illegally they are not legally immigrants. No one likes "alien" though because people think of space aliens when they hear it.


matthew25
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
Methinks Rubio is behind this ploy.

Aren't they refugees?


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los angeles tiger
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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No one likes "alien" though because people think of space aliens when they hear it


The alien that's the gardener where I live has that spaced out look as he happily blows the leaves around the lawn.


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BestBanker
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Overstayed a visa? What nationality?” Jonathan Rosa, a linguistic anthropologist at the University of Massachusetts, told NPR recently that he opts for the more concise ”undocumented democrat."




Leno FIFY.


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Radiojones
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re: Associated Press drops the phrase ‘illegal immigrant’ from Stylebook
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.


Very true indeed.


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