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SlowFlowPro
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Difficult to change America with broad strokes. Easier to make a small portion more palatable, then add more in increments.

i just want an identification more than the fight

once identified, we can compare which group deserves the fight more

so who's next?






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CarrolltonTiger
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And what dangers do gay coupes offer to children?


Would depend on the individual gay couple, I believe in scrutiny of all that are given children by the state, even if the state has no control over morons procreating?

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As to the "unwanted" kids... US adoption laws are a major contributor to why Americans adopt internationally.



I've done work with domestic and international adoptions, and international are far more complex, I have no idea what state laws you are complaining about. It is not complex in LA. If you don't think a Russian, chinese or romanian babies are more desirable than 90% of what is available in the US I think you are unaware of the market.







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Joshjrn
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I'm thinking polygamy is overdue for another look.





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SlowFlowPro
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that's certainly teh "low hanging fruit"





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CarrolltonTiger
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Polyandry would be much more workable in present day America. With the terrible job market and low social skills, it would take several of our generation y and Z numb nuts to support a woman.







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FightinTigersDammit
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If by 'education', you mean propaganda and brainwashing, you're probably right.





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Joshjrn
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Granted, but you're ignoring the flip side: successful men can support more than one woman, alleviating the stress of women not being able to find an unclaimed male who can support them.

ETA: In conversation, I use polygamy as a catch all. I wasn't using it in its technical sense to mean only single male, multiple female relationships



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LSUGrrrl
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Would depend on the individual gay couple, I believe in scrutiny of all that are given children by the state, even if the state has no control over morons procreating?


I agree with this. My argument, though poorly worded, was that no one should be disqualified from adopting simply bc of sexual preference. I believe gay couples should be subject to the same scrutiny as hetero couples.

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I've done work with domestic and international adoptions, and international are far more complex, I have no idea what state laws you are complaining about. It is not complex in LA. If you don't think a Russian, chinese or romanian babies are more desirable than 90% of what is available in the US I think you are unaware of the market.


I work with couples every day that are currently in the process of choosing adoption or are in the process of adoption. I adopted from Russia in 2007 after carefully considering all our options. For clarification, my husband & are we're in the "golden zone" (no kids, early 30's, good income, no physical, mental or criminal concerns, etc)

Many couples choose to adopt internationally bc they desire a "sure thing." There is a lot of concern about birth parents changing their minds during or after the adoption is completed. There is also a discomfort with the varying degrees of openness in Us adoptions. Many couples are ok with interaction with birth parents after the child is 18, but not ok with yearly letters, pics, etc during the child's life up to 18.

Finally, there are concerns with adopting kids from the foster care system. By the time the children are adopted, many have been flagged into the system for one reason or another. While state resources are often needed and helpful for a variety of issues a child may have, it is often more desirable to treat those issues privately with personal money rather than have the child labeled & tracked.

We could probably argue these issues much, much further. However, my main question reworded for further clarification is, "Why would you prevent any couple from adopting simply because of their sexual orientation?"







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Asgard Device
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It seems logical that polygamy would be natural. I'm sure it was common way back in the day, before governments.

There's an evolutionary advantage there. A strong male can mate with multiple women at a time, while women are limited to mating with 1 man at a time. Mediocre and weak men would be less likely to reproduce.



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Joshjrn
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Historically, polygamy is favored in times of turmoil, such as war, famine, etc., for precisely the reason you outlined. When you need to repopulate, having unwed women, males primarily being the casualties of war, is not ideal.


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Asgard Device
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I definitely would not make the cut in a polygamous society.





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dominustd
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denying rights isn't an expansion of government

they should have been able to be married from the beginning by the government


Thus illustrating your ignorance of marriage.

If you're talking "benefits", not everybody is on the same playing field there either, but fight for that if you feel the need.

Marriage has a definition and history, yet libertarians, progressives, libs, gays want to change it AND expand gov't.

The issue really is not about gay marriage as it is about going after churches. Talk about expansion of gov't.






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ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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You're saying the government will force a belief system upon you. So, wouldn't the problem resolve itself when you change your beliefs to coincide with whatever the law of the land is? You're going to be pro-gay marriage (or possibly gay?) when that happens.


That is stupid. If this country passes a law, I follow it. I don't necessarily have to believe in it.






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Asgard Device
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That is stupid. If this country passes a law, I follow it. I don't necessarily have to believe in it.


But, your complaint was that you shouldn't have to alter your beliefs to fit the gay lifestyle.

Yet, your beliefs and freedoms would remain in tact.






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JabarkusRussell
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I think they should be allowed to adopt but agree that I hate how if you are against gay marriage, you come off as the devil. We all have opinions.





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