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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Genetically modified crops


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It doesn't take much to deduce that the companies that produce GMO's are only interested in their bottom line,


and there we go...






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junkfunky
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re: Genetically modified crops


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Good Lord.


I agree. We should get rid of modified crops and farm subsidies. Within 10 years all the poors will have died from starvation and we won't have to worry about what the rest of us are putting into our bodies.






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junkfunky
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re: Genetically modified crops


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But don't sit here and tell me that GMO's are imperative to feeding the world and ending starvation, because that isn't their goal. Could it eventually lead to that? Yes, but society in general would need to undergo a huge shift in ideals for that to happen.


Excellent solution.






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rintintin
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re: Genetically modified crops


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and there we go...

Guess you didn't read my whole post.

Here, I'll save you the trouble.

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And there isn't anything wrong with that IMO, that is the nature of capitalism.






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SlowFlowPro
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re: Genetically modified crops


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Is there a better example of pyschotic nuts than the anti-GMO crowd?

a great example of the "anti-science" wing of the progressives. What science is good science?






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SlowFlowPro
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The fact that you defend GMO's as some "feed the world" project is laughable. It's nothing but a money grab, it has nothing to do with feeding the world.

are you joking? seriously, are you just trolling or that ignorant?






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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Genetically modified crops


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and there we go...


Guess you didn't read my whole post.

Here, I'll save you the trouble.

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And there isn't anything wrong with that IMO, that is the nature of capitalism.


Generally innovation comes from the desire to produce something different.

Many benefits to mankind are a result of innovation which comes from the pursuit of riches. If you dislike genetically modified crops, maintain and grow your own.

I'm guessing the majority of anti GMO folks are also anti corporationl






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SlowFlowPro
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re: Genetically modified crops


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the companies that produce GMO's are only interested in their bottom line,

and?

will they make more money with 4B consumers or 6B consumers? #tellme

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thus "feeding the world" isn't really high on their agenda.

bull shite. if more people are buying their products, they will make more money. they have a vested interest in feeding the world and creating newer, higher-yield crops that cost less in order to feed the demand of the population

GMOs are a great example of how capitalists are the biggest force in serving the world. profit is just a reward for serving the public's demand on such a high level. we should celebrate these companies for doing so much good in the world

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But don't sit here and tell me that GMO's are imperative to feeding the world and ending starvation,

again

will these companies make more money if they feed 4B people or 6B people?






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SlowFlowPro
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I agree. We should get rid of modified crops and farm subsidies. Within 10 years all the poors will have died from starvation and we won't have to worry about what the rest of us are putting into our bodies.

yeah i think the estimates are that natural farming can feed 3.5-4B people. we have 6-7B people (and that's growing)

who decides which group of BILLIONS of people starve to death?






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Springfield XD
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re: Genetically modified crops


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It doesn't take much to deduce that the companies that produce GMO's are only interested in their bottom line, same as every profit driven company, thus "feeding the world" isn't really high on their agenda.


No successful company has "make lots of money" as part of their vision or mission statements. Rather, they are similar to Monsanto's:

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Our Vision: Abundant Food and a Healthy Environment

Our Mission: For the worlds food producers, we work to deliver products and solutions to help them reach their goals in ways that:
Meet the worlds growing food & fiber needs
Conserve natural resources Improve the environment
By serving our customers, we serve our shareholders


Of course you have to make money to exist; it all comes back to that. But making business decisions that reflect your Vision and Mission is the best way to do that.

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But don't sit here and tell me that GMO's are imperative to feeding the world and ending starvation...


Then tell us what IS imperative to feeding the world and ending starvation.






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ProjectP2294
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re: Genetically modified crops


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who decides which group of BILLIONS of people starve to death?


Kim Jong Un.






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ShortyRob
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This thread went exactly as I expected with the anti-"big anythings" basically being anti-GMO cause the companies that make them make $$ and sometimes aren't nice.

Bottom line. Crops that have higher yields for lower cost ARE very fricking important to feeding people.

Sure. Organic is probably better and I, since I can afford to, tend to buy a lot of the less expensive produce. Sometimes just because I think it tastes better.

But, a starving fricker doesn't really give two shits about that and moreover, his biggest concern isn't if his risk of cancer rose from 1:10,000 to 3:10,000.







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Zed
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If the anti-GMO people simply want consumers to be informed about genetically modified food, great. If they want bans, that's another thing entirely, but I don't have a problem with those who just want consumers to be informed about what's in their food.





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rintintin
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re: Genetically modified crops


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will they make more money with 4B consumers or 6B consumers? #tellme


I said...

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Now if "feeding the world" meant more profits, which it very well could, then that would be in their best interest.


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bull shite. if more people are buying their products, they will make more money. they have a vested interest in feeding the world and creating newer, higher-yield crops that cost less in order to feed the demand of the population


Exactly, my point being they are more interested in those words I've bolded than the rest of your statement.

My initial reply to the OP was simply denouncing his premise that these companies are some world feeding charitable organizations. Can the world benefit from such innovations? Yes, and I never said it couldn't.






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ShortyRob
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My initial reply to the OP was simply denouncing his premise that these companies are some world feeding charitable organizations

I implied they were charitable??

Nope. Like many innovators in history, they're doing it because there is value in it and that means $$.

But there IS value in it and there IS positive in it. Dumb fricks who think just cause someone is making money on a thing that the thing can't also be a benefit to humanity are just that.....dumb fricks.






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Zed
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The fact that you defend GMO's as some "feed the world" project is laughable.
That's what the green revolution was all about. Finding a way to increase crop yields to feed a growing world population. Sure, a lot of agricultural advancement has been fueled by pursuit of profit, but if it's helped feed the world, what's the harm?






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rintintin
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I implied they were charitable??

Nope. Like many innovators in history, they're doing it because there is value in it and that means $$.


That's all I was Implying. If I misinterpreted your OP then I apologize.






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rintintin
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Then tell us what IS imperative to feeding the world and ending starvation


Well I think that's a whole new discussion, and in my opinion is has much more to do with the goodwill of humanity than anything else in the imminent future.






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GhostofJackson
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re: Genetically modified crops


I don't believe anyone has mentioned yet that having a patent on a species may be a bad idea.





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Zach
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To me, GMOs are like clothes made by sweat shop labor. If liberals hate it, I want to buy it. I carefully read labels and will not buy anything that says 'recycled' or 'part of the money goes to the poor.'





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