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Exposing The Myth Of The "Racist South" After The Civil Rights Movement


This Article With Maps and Facts Will Piss Progressives Off

Every damn time it is brought up in here, or in political debate, that it is, in fact, the Democrat Party that has a history of championing racism, we get the same tired story from "progressives":

All of the Democrats in the South that voted for Segregation immediately turned to the Republican party and that's why the Republicans are the racists today.

This article highlights how the Democrat Party has not only successfully rewritten its own party's history, but the history of the entire country.

It can't be stressed enough: The Republican party freed slaves, promoted Civil Rights, and spearheaded a woman's right to vote. I mentioned in a thread last week that all three of these items have come back to haunt the Republican party due to the successfull revisionist history by today's Progressives, their teachers, and their media. No good deed goes unpunished with this group, and the entire Republican Party should know this.

Some gems:

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In order to escape their truly wretched past (click on the link for my short book on the subject), modern Democrats have has adopted as an article of faith the bedtime story that, thanks to Tricky Dick Nixon’s “southern strategy,” the racists who had been the backbone of their party for the better part of a century suddenly switched to the GOP en masse some time around 1968, with the happy result that now all the racists are on the right. Presto — instant virtuousness and a clean slate!


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If the parties had in some meaningful way flipped on civil rights, one would expect that to show up in the electoral results in the years following the Democrats’ 1964 about-face on the issue. Nothing of the sort happened: Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties. Nor did the segregationist constituencies that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans: The remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats. It was, on average, nearly a quarter of a century before those seats went Republican. If southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil-rights law passed in 1964, it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990s to do so.


Interesting, so it took the south nearly two generations to become "racist"? How convenient.

Here is a map I found interesting that I admit, I've never seen before: Jimmy Carter's Electoral Map...



Look at all those redneck REPUBLICANS voting blue in the south. Amazing...

The article concludes:

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The Republican ascendancy in Dixie is associated with the rise of the southern middle class, the increasingly trenchant conservative critique of Communism and the welfare state, the Vietnam controversy and the rise of the counterculture, law-and-order concerns rooted in the urban chaos that ran rampant from the late 1960s to the late 1980s, and the incorporation of the radical Left into the Democratic party. Individual events, especially the freak show that was the 1968 Democratic convention, helped solidify conservatives’ affiliation with the Republican party. Democrats might argue that some of these concerns — especially welfare and crime — are “dog whistles” or “code” for race and racism, but this criticism is shallow in light of the evidence and the real saliency of those issues among U.S. voters of all backgrounds and both parties for decades. Indeed, Democrats who argue that the best policies for black Americans are those that are soft on crime and generous with welfare are engaged in much the same sort of cynical racial calculation President Johnson was practicing when he informed skeptical southern governors that his plan for the Great Society was “to have them ****s voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.” Johnson’s crude racism is, happily, largely a relic of the past, but his strategy endures.


So, what other history will soon be rewritten by the Democrats, their academia, and their media?

I bet once Obamacare is revolted against, this too will be a Republican idea.







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UncleLogger
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My Southern politics prof. in college, an ACLU type, spent 2 weeks of the course covering "the switch."

I kept thinking that if he needed that much time to explain it, it's probably bull shite.






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You and your facts are not welcome here.





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My Southern politics prof. in college, an ACLU type, spent 2 weeks of the course covering "the switch." I kept thinking that if he needed that much time to explain it, it's probably bull shite.


Well, as this article proves (complete with electoral maps), the switch took nearly three decades. Maybe he needed a week for each decade?







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With the holiday weekend this might need to be bumped next week...





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So, what other history will soon be rewritten by the Democrats, their academia, and their media?

Okay, okay, I give up. You're right. LBJ opposed civil rights and voting rights while Goldwater championed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Strom Thurmond never went Republican after his Dixiecrats disbanded, he actually went back to the Democratic Party. Also, the Southern Strategy was actually used by the Democrats from 1968 to 1992, not the Republicans. I hope you feel better now that we've cleared this all up.







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Okay, okay, I give up. You're right. LBJ opposed civil rights and voting rights while Goldwater championed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Strom Thurmond never went Republican after his Dixiecrats disbanded, he actually went back to the Democratic Party. Also, the Southern Strategy was actually used by the Democrats from 1968 to 1992, not the Republicans. I hope you feel better now that we've cleared this all up.


I know, right?






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Bookmarked for future use.





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Okay, okay, I give up. You're right. LBJ opposed civil rights and voting rights while Goldwater championed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Strom Thurmond never went Republican after his Dixiecrats disbanded, he actually went back to the Democratic Party. Also, the Southern Strategy was actually used by the Democrats from 1968 to 1992, not the Republicans. I hope you feel better now that we've cleared this all up.


We are all racists now....

Everyone sing!!!

Ignore the voting maps! Ignore the history!

Ignore the KKK founding! Ignore Robert Byrd! Ignore the long list of Democrats who opposed Civil Rights and pushed Jim Crow laws!

Ignore it all! We are all Racists now!!

All togther, sing one more time!!







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Strom Thurmond was the only "Dixiecrat" politician who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to go Republican. And, as the electoral map of 1976 shows, there was no sudden electoral shift in voting. Every single state from the old Confederacy, with the exception of Virginia, went Democrat in that election. It wasn't until the 1980s and 1990s that you started to see a shift in the way the South voted.




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It goes back a few decades, but the integration of the BOSTON schools was a rather damning indictment of the Norths percieved notion of racial acceptance in the 70's. The number one most segragated school system in America as of a few years ago is located in CHICAGO Illinois. Randy Newman wrote a song that you will never hear on the radio anywhere in this country called "We're Rednecks" after viewing an episode of the Dick Cavett show in about 1970. The then "redneck" governor of Georgia was excoriated by him and his audience that night. If you can find it give it a listen as it goes to the core of racial acceptance in America even today.





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It goes back a few decades, but the integration of the BOSTON schools was a rather damning indictment of the Norths percieved notion of racial acceptance in the 70's. The number one most segragated school system in America as of a few years ago is located in CHICAGO Illinois. Randy Newman wrote a song that you will never hear on the radio anywhere in this country called "We're Rednecks" after viewing an episode of the Dick Cavett show in about 1970. The then "redneck" governor of Georgia was excoriated by him and his audience that night. If you can find it give it a listen as it goes to the core of racial acceptance in America even today.


As a somewhat "youngster" here (mid to late 30's) and FORMER DEMOCRAT, this is a topic that has always amazed me. Even in my undergrad years as a Poli Sci major, I did some research on this but never got much cooperation from my profs on the issue (wonder why?!?).

To me, this is one of the biggest hokus pokus acts ever pulled by a political party. Being that I wasn't alive during these historical times and didn't get to vote for a POTUS until 1996, I don't have a personal history to look back on. Stories from those who lived it always interest me. Especially the old timers who STILL vote democrat that are some of the most racist people I know.

See that map for Clinton where LA is blue? Yeah, I helped do that.







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I kept thinking that if he needed that much time to explain it, it's probably bull shite.
Always a good rule!

I laugh each and every time some denigrate Whites in the south as racists. In itself, it's a bigoted view. If I said Blacks in the south are ______... wouldn't that be racist? Heck we can't even say "Chicago" anymore.






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I have seen a couple of pieces in the past few months "exposing the myth" of the Southern Strategy, and they do raise some interesting points. What I believe is that the Dems have been remarkably fortunate to have this understanding bought so fully by academia and the media, but I do believe there is SOME truth to it. Eisenhower was sympathetic in many ways to the civil rights movement and there were some advances during his tenure. However, you have to give LBJ the credit for the CRA of 1964 being passed on his watch. Also, it is hard to believe this now, but the parties had major rifts within them at the time. Sure, the South was Democratic, but the "Dixiecrat" wing was NEVER inclined to favor civil rights for blacks. Having relatively few elected officials in the South, the GOP didn't have that issue.

In my opinion, the GOP's real "sin" in the eyes of the media was saying "enough" to the social engineering that followed the grandest achievements of the civil rights movements. For example, opposition to forced busing and affirmative action, and less obvious matters such as being "tough on crime," which contrasted sharply with liberal criminal justice theories which have been largely discared by both parties. In response to GOP candidates taking largely popular positions in conflict not with the basic premises of civil rights but very much in conflict with the liberal "aftershocks," Dems have had success in asserting "dog whistle" and "code word" racism, while largely excusing any racist utterances or positions held by those in their own camp (see Jesse Jackson's comments re: Jews, etc.).

All in all, I think it's just a lot more complicated than "It was really the Dems who were racist!" But I am glad to see some pushback against the notion that the GOP instantly took the South because of opposition to civil rights.









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Okay, okay, I give up. You're right. LBJ opposed civil rights and voting rights while Goldwater championed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
You might want to look into the history of Al Gore Sr and Robert Byrd.






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LBJ got it passed on the tears of emotion caused by JFK's death and nothing more.





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All in all, I think it's just a lot more complicated than "It was really the Dems who were racist!" But I am glad to see some pushback against the notion that the GOP instantly took the South because of opposition to civil rights.


I agree with your entire post. Both parties do share the blame. I firmly believe everyone is racist in their own way. It is human nature.

I just hate the constant "if you are from the south, you are automatically a racist, uneducated redneck....unless you vote democrat".

As others have mentioned, I too have travelled a ton for my job and have had to network with people all over the country. The most hateful people I've run into were from the Northeast and Idaho. Yeah, I singled out Idaho. LOL






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LBJ opposed civil rights and voting rights while Goldwater championed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.


While LBJ was a piece of shite and one of the worst Presidents in US history, he wasn't dumb. The CRA was just one piece of his "Great Society" platform intended to establish a minority voting block for decades. It was a huge success for the Democrats.







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RollTide4Ever
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LBJ voted against the 1950s version while Goldwater supported it. Goldwater was even a a member of the NAACP.

LBJ turned down Goldwater request for a debate.



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