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brmark70816
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why did you include the bolded part? why does that matter?


The guy is a career politician, one wrong phrase or statement will ruin he career. I thought he was very open, but he has to measure his words or it's suicide. Of course it's a huge problem, but he couldn't dwell on it. Carolla has free reign to make bold assertions with no fear or reprissal. Obviously Newsom can not.

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that was the point of that discussion: newsom was lying, lying, and lying some more


I don't think he lied. He deflected and tried to steer away. Any semi-intelligent person saw that, like we all did. He also minimized it to a small degree, but I'm not sure what was to be gained by harping on it. It's a huge issue today, but Carolla didn't want to talk about solutions. He just wanted to rant on how fricked up it is.

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those are symptoms of bigger problems


Kind of like the chicken or the egg argument. Large amount of black fathers in prison, hence the fatherless children. I'm not sure one can be without the other.

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the bar doesn't test your ability to practice law. i've taken one, and it had little to do with the practice of law it was mostly an endurance test (Cali has a similarly difficult bar, like LA...both are real tough)


Kind of my point. It's a hard test that isn't a judge of someone's character or intelligence. It tests particular knowledge, I'm assuming. I'm just saying it doesn't make someone less of a person if they failed or incapable of not exceling in another profession (like politics or civil service).

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i think people overcomplicate issues because they want to be like newsom and not admit the truth. things get complicated when you keep lying about shite over and over


I'm sure this is true to a certain extent. But the guy seemed pretty genuine to me, about as much as any other politician can be. Just my opinion though..






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The guy is a career politician, one wrong phrase or statement will ruin he career. I thought he was very open, but he has to measure his words or it's suicide.

that's almost exactly what carolla called him out on

and newsom lied and said it wasn't that. his words, not mine or corolla's

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Carolla has free reign to make bold assertions with no fear or reprissal.

bull shite. the market regulates what he can get away with saying

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I don't think he lied. He deflected and tried to steer away.

one in the same

but he die lie. he said that asians and jews go to payday loan places as much as blacks. that's maybe the biggest lie i've ever heard in my fricking life. i posted about it earlier in this trhead

he lied about saying things due to voter reaction, also

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It's a huge issue today, but Carolla didn't want to talk about solutions.

i thought he did talk solutions. newsom didn't, because newsom didn't even admit there was a problem...oh wait he STARATED that whole segment by stating there was a problem for groups based on race...and then he scolded corolla for separating groups based on race.

he couldn't even get his arguments consistent and ended up criticizing his initial fricking point

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Large amount of black fathers in prison, hence the fatherless children.

so the ladies get pregnant on conjugal visits?

and people go to prison, the vast majority of the time, because they make bad choices

bad choices are the problem

getting pregnant when you can't afford it is a bad choice
ruining your credit is a bad choice
not valuing education is bad choice
selling drugs is a bad choice
wasting money on shite you don't need is a bad choice

payday loan places? not really a bad choice when you're dealing with people who need credit and have made the above-list of bad choices. which thing did newsom (and carolla) point out? the payday loan places

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It tests particular knowledge, I'm assuming

it tests shite a college educated kid could learn via barbri in a few months

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But the guy seemed pretty genuine to me,

go back to one of my original posts in this thread and i can show you exactly why he's wrong, in the most genuine way

NM, here it is

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"i don't want to have a sociological debate. i want to deal with reality"




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brmark70816
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bull shite. the market regulates what he can get away with saying


I don't know how much of this is true. He owns the show and is not regulated by any authorities that I know of. He has a niche market and I can't think of any way he would drive his listeners away, other than stop being controversal (kind of like Stern back in the day). He isn't running for an election, so he isn't open to public scrutiny which, given his life story, he would fail at in every possible way (drug abuse, failed relationships, chauvanism and bigotry). Which makes him fun to listen to, but not a great source of political opinion.

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one in the same


That is just the nature of politicians. He could say that about every one of them. Bringing him on and trying to ambush him with it was kind of bush league. I thought Newsom handled himself well. I get that you don't and you think he's a liar. I just don't see it that way..

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so the ladies get pregnant on conjugal visits? and people go to prison, the vast majority of the time, because they make bad choices


Yeah, it's f'd up. I get it. But fathers or guys with kids do go to jail. Of course they are bad decisions, but you're supposed to go to jail when you break the law. But the consequence is the kid gets raised without a father. Not sure what more to say about it. It's a bad thing. Which is a bigger deal, jail or fatherless children, I don't know..







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He owns the show and is not regulated by any authorities that I know of. He has a niche market and I can't think of any way he would drive his listeners away,

that market of listeners regulates what he can get away with. he can't just go say anything

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He isn't running for an election, so he isn't open to public scrutiny

he's a public figure and is open to public scrutiny. hell, a forum based in louisiana is discussing him right now

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Bringing him on and trying to ambush him with it was kind of bush league.

what? they were having a peaceful conversation that wasn't controversial at all, and was light-hearted, until NEWSOM said that half of all blacks and latinos don't have access to checking accounts (which still blows my mind). newsom started that line of discussion, not corolla

how did corolla ambush him about blacks/latinos when newsom segregated them into groups and made a comment about those groupings first?

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But the consequence is the kid gets raised without a father.

and the story should be: don't do what your father did

instead, the story is: what your father did wasn't a big deal. he's a victim, and you will be too

until those cultures change, they're going to stay in the same place. this applies to all races






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that market of listeners regulates what he can get away with. he can't just go say anything


Which is a very small segment of the population that isn't very diverse. Carolla is a brilliant businessman and he got in on the podcast idea before others so kudos to him. But other than doing something totally outrageous, his job is pretty secure.

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he's a public figure and is open to public scrutiny. hell, a forum based in louisiana is discussing him right now


Ehh not really the same thing. He doesn't have to be elected.

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what? they were having a peaceful conversation that wasn't controversial at all, and was light-hearted, until NEWSOM said that half of all blacks and latinos don't have access to checking accounts (which still blows my mind). newsom started that line of discussion, not corolla


Is that how you heard it? Like I said, different people, different perspectives. Carolla was trying to bait him the whole time. Once he got him on this one subject, he pounced. Honestly, I didn't see anything that special about it. Carolla got loud and animated, but nothing really came of it.

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until those cultures change, they're going to stay in the same place. this applies to all races


I get that this is a special issue for you and a point of contention. I pretty much agree with everything you say. Hell I was on here in support of sterilization a few months ago. I just don't expect politicians to embrace these ideas in the open.






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side note: I always thought it would be a good idea to open a temp agency, pay day loan, and liquor store right next to each other...maybe under the same roof.





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Is that how you heard it?

that's reality. i guess i heard reality

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I didn't see anything that special about it. Carolla got loud and animated, but nothing really came of it.

nothing came of it b/c newsom ran away from his stupid comment about blacks and latinos







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