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| What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:46 pm)
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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:47 pm to PrimeTime Money)
I'm ok with it for the most part.
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
What is "for the most part"?
Why not the whole part?
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:51 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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Why not the whole part?
You always hear those stories about money going towards ridiculous things, like shrimp on treadmills.
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Brosef Stalin 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:51 pm to PrimeTime Money)
None.
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jcole4lsu 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:53 pm to PrimeTime Money)
its only like 2% of the budget i think, and a lot of it does a whole hell of a lot of good. hard to put a ratio on good research to bad, but id say we are getting our money's worth on balance.
kill funding to the arts. that shite is worthless.
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Good point.
And  at shrimp on treadmills.
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:56 pm to PrimeTime Money)
I'm good with it.
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aaronb023
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:00 pm to Walking the Earth)
i'm sure theres a lot of waste as in most things the government spends money on. but I think it provides for the general welfare more than Obama phones
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MrCarton 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:00 pm to PrimeTime Money)
No role whatsoever.
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Interception
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:06 pm to PrimeTime Money)
They have a major role in helping push discovery and innovation.
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The Easter Bunny 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:07 pm to PrimeTime Money)
I'm a big fan since I'm a scientist
The US putting money into science is definitely a main reason why we are the leaders in so many fields
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:09 pm to MrCarton)
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No role whatsoever.
Do you think it isn't useful for the government to fund research? Or is it the principle of it?
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unbeWEAVEable
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:10 pm to Interception)
"Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited and as a corollary the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for America to provide systematic research grants for our scientists. I believe strongly there will always be a need for us to have a well-articulated innovation policy with emphasis on human resource development."
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:19 pm to unbeWEAVEable)
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"Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited and as a corollary the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for America to provide systematic research grants for our scientists. I believe strongly there will always be a need for us to have a well-articulated innovation policy with emphasis on human resource development."
I obviously agree, but do you have a link
Thanks
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Mohican
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:34 pm to unbeWEAVEable)
While I believe that the free market will always be more efficient in springing up the great technological and medical breakthroughs that propel society forward, I do think government has a role to play through the political process of maintaining research that provides a constant stream of "knowledge searching" in order to benefit society as a whole, based on what the government (the people) believes is important. SOME scientific knowledge may not be profitable or economical to unveil, i.e. space research and travel. The ROI may take several generations to realize, which would not be appealing to private investors today, therefore the American people should be sold on the importance of its funding.
Also, the grant process is IMO one of the more honest processes in government funding (in most, not all cases). A scientist proposes research in a field the government (theoretically, representing the will of the people) deems important. The grant is submitted to a panel of peers in the same field who vet the entire proposed research methods, hypotheses, purpose, etc. and decide to approve or reject the funds, or suggest changes to resubmit.
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:39 pm to Mohican)
Internet?
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Patrick_Bateman 
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/2/13 at 7:51 am to Interception)
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They have a major role in helping push discovery and innovation.
Yes, I agree. Those who are saying "None" must not have a good understanding of science and research, their importance, and the role grants (i.e., government money) play in them, I expect. No disrespect. However, like anything else related to the government, there are probably many areas of waste with re: to funding research.
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aaronb023
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/2/13 at 8:08 am to unbeWEAVEable)
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"Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited and as a corollary the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for America to provide systematic research grants for our scientists. I believe strongly there will always be a need for us to have a well-articulated innovation policy with emphasis on human resource development."
did you black out after saying that?
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90proofprofessional
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| re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research? (Posted on 3/2/13 at 8:16 am to Mohican)
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Also, the grant process is IMO one of the more honest processes in government funding (in most, not all cases).
pretty much agree. if govt's gotta do the funding, this is prob the best way available
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