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LSUconvert 
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Clackamas, Or
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464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:44 pm to jcole4lsu)
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spending money on in this country
not sure if serious, you should take a look for yourself, don't take my word for it.
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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:45 pm to LSUconvert)
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you should take a look for yourself, don't take my word for it.
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jcole4lsu 
Virginia Fan
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Member since Nov 2007
22335 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:46 pm to LSUconvert)
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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If you don't value two parent households and education, you end up poor and dependent.
I expected better from you :(
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Generally people who make it out of poverty are more frugal than those who are born into wealth.
This is because they value material possessions more, most likely because they grew up valuing that which they did not have.
This is why people who live without freedom will sacrifice worldly possessions to be free.
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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:47 pm to jcole4lsu)
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:48 pm to jcole4lsu)
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jcole4lsu
Today children, we learn a great deal in how to manipulate the masses with colors and shapes.
That graphic is misleading and you know exactly how so, if you give me a couple hours i'll be on a computer.
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jcole4lsu
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:51 pm to LSUconvert)
first is from cnn money.
second is sourced from the cbo, presented by some website i dont know.
here is one from forex.com
sourced from the budget office in '11
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jcole4lsu
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:52 pm to LSUconvert)
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Today children, we learn a great deal in how to manipulate the masses with colors and shapes.
yeah please come educate me, i dont have a degree in economics or anything...
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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:54 pm to LSUconvert)
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If you don't value two parent households and education, you end up poor and dependent.
I expected better from you :(
Somethings wrong with you when you have a problem with the obvious. You know damn well it's true, but just too PC to admit it.
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Generally people who make it out of poverty are more frugal than those who are born into wealth.
This is because they value material possessions more, most likely because they grew up valuing that which they did not have.
Could be. Or they value the hard work that went into obtaining the things they have.
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:54 pm to jcole4lsu)
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i dont have a degree in economics or anything...
Probably from some degree mill, useless intellectual. 
fo real though, i'll be on a computer in a couple hours.
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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
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Member since Nov 2007
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:56 pm to LSUconvert)
uh huh.
nice assumptions asshat.
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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You know damn well it's true, but just too PC to admit it.
It's just not that cut and dry, though you've given me a pass on generalities so I guess the thing to do would be let it go.
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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:56 pm to LSUconvert)
Well, here you go.
LINK
Looks pretty cut and dried to me.
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:56 pm to jcole4lsu)
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nice assumptions asshat.
It was a joke :(
You know, because that's what everyone here thinks.
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Looks pretty cut and dried to me.
Really? Because all I see are graphics telling me that less wage earners means less income. I admit I just skimmed, but nowhere did it have any information on the adult life of the children in those situations?
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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:04 pm to LSUconvert)
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Really? Because all I see are graphics telling me that less wage earners means less income
One of us is lost, and I don't think its me. People who devalue two parent households and education usually end up poor. I think the information posted showed the earning potential of single females is pretty bleak, particularly if they have children.
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. I admit I just skimmed, but nowhere did it have any information on the adult life of the children in those situations?
It appears we have a culture of this, a cycle that is repeating. LINK
LINK
I'll stand by what I said which is that people who devalue two parent households and education are doomed to be poor and pass those values along to the next generation.
This post was edited on 3/1 at 10:08 pm
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228Tiger
LSU Fan
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12063 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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We never berate the people, we berate the system.
The system contributes to generations of ignorance and slothfulness
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Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Member since Aug 2005
1660 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:17 pm to 228Tiger)
Some valid points have been made but IMO not the right points. Welfare will be addressed in the future but it can't be addressed right now. If you cut welfare those that don't know how to work or refuse to work will turn to theft. More than likley this means home invasion and theft. With an armed populance this peopple my be shot and possibley killed. We can not have blood on our hands. Therefore, until we have stricter gun control (get the guns out of law abiding citizens hands) we can not have welfare reform.
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hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
4495 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:52 am to Zach)
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Absolutely true, CT. The problem is children. If they cared about setting an example for their kids they would get up in the morning and go to a job even if it was the same pay as welfare in order to instill their children with a better set of values.
Welfare is carefully designed and continually tweaked to discourage work and independence to ensure democratic party power for generations to come.
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JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
6350 posts
| re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point? (Posted on 3/2/13 at 3:32 am to ThaBigFella)
American has the richest poor people in the world.
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