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90proofprofessional
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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I'm not at all saying that there can't be reforms made to make it more difficult for people to game the system, but there does seem to be this mentality around here that all of these people are just moochers and we should cut them off and let them fin for themselves

the op seemed like a pretty legit criticism of the perverse incentive structure that our safety net programs can impose. it's a problem. disagree?






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RCDfan1950
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


So, DS...people who exhibit bad behavior shouldn't be berated? Or just 'some' people? And if just 'some' people are excepted from (their behavior) being stigmatized, why would that be? Low expectations? Double standards, or no standards? Latent racism?

Starts at the top. But people know in their heart, when they are doing bad. Even the worst of the worst. Psychoses nws.

Still, your sentiment is laudable. I sincerely believe that if I harshly judge the simplistic folk who have a hard go...then I'll wake up in the next life being one of em'. Which would be a worthy test of character...and a good thing. That said...I do hope for continued prosperity if I behave myself.

Good job.






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MississippiLSUfan
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


Responsibility. That's it. I waited to have children until I could provide for them. I got married prior to having children.

It's insulting and offensive to me to be forced to pay for a lower middle class life for irresponsible takers.






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Draconian Sanctions
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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I waited to have children until I could provide for them


were you a virgin before you got married?






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jcole4lsu
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were you a virgin before you got married?

what does that have to do with anything? sounds like a strawman to avoid his point of exercising personal responsibility






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Draconian Sanctions
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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what does that have to do with anything?


Not every pregnancy is planed and the right irrationally hates planned parenthood yet screams about "personal responsibility"






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jcole4lsu
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Not every pregnancy is planed and the right irrationally hates planned parenthood yet screams about "personal responsibility"

did the poster you responded to bitched about PP to your knowledge?






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MississippiLSUfan
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


Irrelevant. Whether I fricked a hundred women or none has nothing to do with my post.

But no. Are you aroused now?






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MississippiLSUfan
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


I do hate PP. sex Ed is thought in schools. I knew that I had to spend a couple of dollars to get some pussy. I bought condoms with the money that I earned from mowing lawns.

The money that I earned and spent was damn sure worth it.

frick PP.






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jcole4lsu
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


so you just hate abortions? im not sure why you are ranting about sex ed





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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


do you really not see the connection between the two?





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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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Are you aroused now?


What the frick is wrong with you?






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WeeWee
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


They don't. If you can get comfortable with nothing and get over the feeling ashamed for taking a handout, you can live a dang good life. One of the men that works on my brother's farm, has 3 children all of which receive some kind of government check, a wife that was on disability for 3 years because she slipped on the stairs at her job on a rainy day. She said she couldn't stand up for long periods of time or sit down for long periods of time. He just works to get out of the house and for money to buy cigarettes and casino money.






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Tactical1
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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Whether I fricked a hundred women or none has nothing to do with my post


It does when you are preaching responsibility.






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Vlad The Inhaler
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


I don't think many do. Downfall of society





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PrivateJoker
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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were you a virgin before you got married?


Oh yeah you are real fricking mature.

There are these things called condoms, or for girls, little pills. It is possible to take them to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Perhaps he used them to prevent pregnancy because he did not have the funds to raise a child at that time. That is personal responsibility. You are getting away from welfare, now trying to rant about something else entirely.



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c on z
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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America is a place where being poor is not so bad..


You apparently have no idea what it's like to be poor.






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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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I'm not at all saying that there can't be reforms made to make it more difficult for people to game the system, but there does seem to be this mentality around here that all of these people are just moochers and we should cut them off and let them fin for themselves which is just ridiculous. I know some of you here are extremists but come the frick on.


Godaamned you are awful. You must randomly read a few posts and make some assumption it's board gospel.

We've discussed ways to reform the system before, many times, that don't result dead bodies piled on the streets from starvation.

The system encourages people to stay in the system and are penalized for bettering themselves, in many circumstances.






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jcole4lsu
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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do you really not see the connection between the two?

the connection you are trying to draw between personal responsibility and abortion?
there are plenty of people, myself included, who think abortion is a part of being responsible in some cases.






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PrivateJoker
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re: Why Would people on Welfare even try to better their lives at this point?


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You apparently have no idea what it's like to be poor.



In modern day America, it really isn't that bad. Not many people here are dying like the thousands in Africa or the Middle East or India because of lack of food, water, or basic medical care.

In highschool, I had a friend. His dad was a cop. He went to private school with me. But that was provided to him by his parents. He was a pothead. He always managed to scrape together money for weed or someone gave him money for stuff. He regularly ate mcdonalds and subway. But now after we have graduated, he has done nothing. He works cleaning carpets and makes 9 dollars an hour. Has a cheap cheap rental house due to his mom formerly having it as an agent. It really is not a very nice house.

But he is probably happy. Last I heard, he still smokes a ton of pot and has a lot of parties. He will most likely always be like this. Scraping by and what not. He will be poor mostly, and the only reason he has a decent car is because his grandma isnt able to drive anymore so he got hers. He is happy as far as I could always tell.

Sure, he is not mooching off the gov right now as far as I know. I do know for a while his furniture was stuff he found on the side of the road, and he had stolen cable. It makes me sad. It really does. He could have at least tried BRCC (edit: community college). His dad struggled to send him and his siblings to school and support them. He shite all over that. It is pathetic and is just one example of the thought process of many of the poor and lower class people.




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