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morsatun Member since Jul 2012 86 posts

| The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:04 am)
I really think that the biggest problem we have at the moment is call Erick Gordon. I am not saying he is a bad player, but between the fact that he cannot play in back to backs, and the lack of consistency he has shown, the team has not been able to develop clear and consistent game style. We have gone from a team that was losing because we were waiting for our superstar to come back, to a team that plays a different style every game (Depending on whether Gordon plays and how he plays). I actually think that given the development of our players, we should be playing better more consistent ball by now, but the whole Gordon saga is just preventing us from developing further.
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thermal9221  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2005 6242 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:08 am to morsatun)
Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender. Once you do this you will be at peace.
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26612 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:09 am to morsatun)
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but the whole Gordon saga is just preventing us from developing further.
Yes, because Anderson, Lopez and Vasquez having to shoulder more of the scoring load has hurt their game this year rather than forced them to develop. Because Austin Rivers has not benefited from all the extra minutes he's received thanks to Gordon being out so often. I'll agree that if the goal was to win he would be reason #1 why the team wasn't meeting it's goals, but winning isn't the primary goal this year.
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gjackx  LSU Fan Red Stick Member since Jan 2007 10696 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:12 am to TigerinATL)
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Because Austin Rivers has not benefited from all the extra minutes he's received thanks to Gordon being out so often.
He's only going to get better. I totally agree with this statement. The league is tough, but there's only one way to learn!
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 16336 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:14 am to thermal9221)
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Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender. Once you do this you will be at peace.
This team will be a contender within 2 years.
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fightingtiger2335  Southeastern LA Fan heh? Member since Aug 2007 53080 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:15 am to TigerinATL)
If winning isn't a concern then wouldn't eg playing stifle development of players that needed him put early to be any good?
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26612 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:28 am to fightingtiger2335)
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If winning isn't a concern
Primary concern. I don't think Monty has it in him to try to lose, last year Demps had to take pieces off the board to get the tank rolling. But it's obvious that developing guys like Rivers and even Roberts seems to be more important than winning this year.
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HeadyBrosevelt  Hawaii Fan Member since Jan 2013 4288 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:44 am to thermal9221)
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Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender. Once you do this you will be at peace.
It's funny cause I actually hear people say this at games all the time
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JayJay2  West Virginia Fan cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne Member since Jul 2010 8665 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:48 am to morsatun)
Flavor of the month.
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Fearthehat0307  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2007 34460 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:05 pm to thermal9221)
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Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender
I was told this year after year about the saints. everyone would always tell me to calm down when I would talk up the team every year before the season started. then along came drew brees and I was rewarded for my loyalty and fandom. Anthony davis is the hornets drew brees. take your loser mentality else where like france or something
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OceanMan  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 1912 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:12 pm to morsatun)
solid post by the OP
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EarthwormJim  LSU Fan Member since Dec 2005 6048 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:18 pm to Fearthehat0307)
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I was told this year after year about the saints. everyone would always tell me to calm down when I would talk up the team every year before the season started. then along came drew brees and I was rewarded for my loyalty and fandom. Anthony davis is the hornets drew brees. take your loser mentality else where like france or something
I think he was talking about just this season. The building blocks are there and Gordon's playing time has nothing to do with the development of others on this team.
This post was edited on 2/27 at 12:21 pm
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Spudly  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jun 2008 889 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:23 pm to EarthwormJim)
Erick...NICE! 
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Kamtheman106  New Orleans Saints Fan The Valley of the Sun Member since Mar 2012 192 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:44 pm to Fearthehat0307)
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quote: Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender I was told this year after year about the saints. everyone would always tell me to calm down when I would talk up the team every year before the season started. then along came drew brees and I was rewarded for my loyalty and fandom. Anthony davis is the hornets drew brees. take your loser mentality else where like france or something
We have a winner.
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504Voodoo  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2012 817 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:23 pm to thermal9221)
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Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender. Once you do this you will be at peace.

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Gtothemoney  New Orleans Saints Fan Da North Shore Member since Sep 2012 1614 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:14 pm to TigerinATL)
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but winning isn't the primary goal this year
Wait, what? Hello? I don't want anyone who has this type of mentality to have anything to do with my organization.
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 16336 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:15 pm to Kamtheman106)
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We have a winner.
Actually, if anything, we clearly have a loser who is content with such.
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Fearthehat0307  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2007 34460 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:20 pm to Jester)
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We have a winner. Actually, if anything, we clearly have a loser who is content with such.
what the frick 
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 16336 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:26 pm to Fearthehat0307)
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what the frick
I misunderstood his quoting technique.... I thought he was talking specifically about:
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Realize and accept that this team will never be a contender. Once you do this you will be at peace.
eta - I agree with what you said. 
This post was edited on 2/27 at 3:28 pm
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26612 posts

| re: The Gordon situation is killing us (Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:28 pm to Gtothemoney)
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Wait, what? Hello? I don't want anyone who has this type of mentality to have anything to do with my organization.
Well maybe you should go be a Lakers fan then. Most teams have to rebuild and develop players from time to time. This is not to be confused with tanking. There have been plenty of times this year where Monty should have put starters back in or at least called a time out and he didn't. That's not playing to win, that's playing to let guys develop and learn from their mistakes now so you can win in the future.
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