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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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Within the rules set up by whatever government(s) you are under. So, sorta.


Yes. Some may even argue that it's bigger than individual governments and it's a small percentage of people making all the really important choices.






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CarrolltonTiger
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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There is no real choice.


Perhaps if we all lived by your bible you would be satisified with the choices you have?







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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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This is not really valid. There are only two candidates every four years that have any realistic chance of winning. Both are hand picked and both are very similar in the things they ultimately do. The differences are typically only cosmetic in nature. There is no real choice.


Correct. Glad to see this on the Poli board.






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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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CarrolltonTiger



He's right, actually.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Glad to see this on the Poli board.


I'm sure it will appeal to all the perplexed apathetic losers filled with angst in their meaningless existence.






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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


You seem to have much more angst than me, my friend. I love my existence. I just choose not to participate in the three ring circus that is the modern world.

I enjoy the true pleasures of life. Sorry I have a different view on it than you do.






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WikiTiger
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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I'm sure it will appeal to all the perplexed apathetic losers filled with angst in their meaningless existence.


hahaha

will you just die already? you've already outlived your usefulness old man. time for your planned obsolescence to take effect






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Zed
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


Well, you don't have any choice about paying into social security or medicare. You obviously have to pay income taxes to support government programs you don't necessarily agree with, wars you may or may not agree with, etc.

You don't have much choice in public education beyond moving to a school district with decent schools, provided there is one in your area. You can't legally consume illegal substances, or legally purchase sex from a prostitute. Yes, your choices are limited.






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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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Well, you don't have any choice about paying into social security or medicare. You obviously have to pay income taxes to support government programs you don't necessarily agree with, wars you may or may not agree with, etc.

You don't have much choice in public education beyond moving to a school district with decent schools, provided there is one in your area. You can't legally consume illegal substances, or legally purchase sex from a prostitute. Yes, your choices are limited.


You're exactly right, thank you for posting.






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CarrolltonTiger
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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You seem to have much more angst than me, my friend.


How so? I'm not claiming to be oppressed and apathetic?

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I just choose not to participate in the three ring circus that is the modern world.


that sounds healthy.

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I enjoy the true pleasures of life.


But you avoid the modern world? Interesting.






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Zach
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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The "choice" between Romney and Obama is about as meaningful as the choice between McDonalds and Burger King.

Well, that would identify you as a non thinker.






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PrimeTime Money
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


That's wrong. You have the choice to vote for whoever you want.

You just say there is "no choice" because the majority of people don't make the same choice that you do.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Well, that would identify you as a non thinker.


I think his OP did that.






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rbWarEagle
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How so? I'm not claiming to be oppressed and apathetic?


First, let me say that I wouldn't change my apathy for anything. It keeps me sane.

I'd argue that my awareness of the oppression that all of us are under makes it inherently less damaging to me than it is to someone who is still in the dark and denies logic and truth.

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that sounds healthy.

I'm pretty healthy. Good job, high education, great sex life, in perfect health (as far as I know), and I'm constantly referred to as "the nicest guy I know".

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But you avoid the modern world? Interesting.


You didn't understand what I meant. Modern world meaning the distractions brought forth by it (voting, for example).



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rbWarEagle
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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The "choice" between Romney and Obama is about as meaningful as the choice between McDonalds and Burger King.


Well, that would identify you as a non thinker.








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rbWarEagle
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That's wrong. You have the choice to vote for whoever you want.

You just say there is "no choice" because the majority of people don't make the same choice that you do.



Again, you've got the idea but you're missing the point.






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PrimeTime Money
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I'm not. There is nothing restricting your freedom.





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Revelator
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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You just say there is "no choice" because the majority of people don't make the same choice that you do.



In theory you are right, but not in reality. First, there is a large portion of the populace that will always vote Dem. or Rep. because that's the way it's always been. Secondly, third party candidates are oftentimes not given the same coverage or opportunities in forums such as debates. Thirdly, the media has huge influence on the outcome of elections and can do much to sway the sentiment of voters one way or another. I've voted for third party candidates the last two presidential elections because I am so fed up with both sides. I did so knowing that my vote was going to end up being strictly symbolic though.






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eelsuee
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re: Do we really have freedom of choice?


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In my opinion, I have a meaningful choice being denied to me every 4 years.
Lets just make you a dictator so that your choice will be the one everyone else is forced to live by. Is that your idea of freedom? I haven't been happy with the two choices in a presidential election ever (I am 32), but the reality of the situation isn't due to a lack of my freedom.






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PrimeTime Money
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But that is how the country was shaped through having freedom. Democrat and Republican are the majority parties because they put in the work over the years to make that happen... exercising their own freedom to do that.

Media companies exercise their freedom to say what they want.

The political make-up is the way it is BECAUSE we are free and this is how the chips fell.

We are free to change it. It just takes time.

You are confusing lack of freedom with not having it your way.






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