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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:05 am to Reubaltaich)
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WHY has this not been fixed?
how do you fix it?
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Jbird 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro)
The link is when you get more than you pay, in essence it isn't really any different than EITC, people use deductions when they file and receive EITC not much different.
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arseinclarse 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro)
Flat tax. Keep it simple. Our tax code is insane.
But, then again, who will stop companies from going to other countries?
This post was edited on 2/16 at 11:08 am
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lsu13lsu
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro)
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how do you fix it?
Flat tax. No deductions.
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Jbird
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro)
Isn't that what the smartest MFer in the world was yapping about in the SOTU?
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Layabout 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:21 am to lsu13lsu)
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So it is okay because it has always been that way? I am not following you.
It's being addressed in a democrat sponsored bill this year but look for the Tea Party to squeal like pigs over it.
What I objected to was the knee-jerk blame Obama snark in the original post.
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Gmorgan4982
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro)
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so i don't see the connection
Me neither.
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Jbird
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:26 am to Layabout)
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What I objected to was the knee-jerk blame Obama snark in the original post.
I am shocked that you object to my snarkiness! Do you object to all snark or are you selective in your poutrage? The man and his peeps have had control for fricking years and has done nothing of substance with the exclusion of a healthcare debacle.
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lsu13lsu
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:33 am to Layabout)
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What I objected to was the knee-jerk blame Obama snark in the original post.
why even address snark? let's fix the damn country. there is enough snark on both sides already ruining this country.
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lsu13lsu
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:34 am to arseinclarse)
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Flat tax. Keep it simple. Our tax code is insane.
It is only insane to taxpayers. To politicians it is the perfect way to pay voters.
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constant cough 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:39 am to Jbird)
Yay! More Crony Capitalism! Obama loves him some big business really it's just small businesses that he hates. You know, they didn't build that.
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Jbird
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:40 am to constant cough)
Yeah and idiots think he is for the little guy!
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Reubaltaich 
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:46 am to Jbird)
Layabout
So why doesn't barry make a huge push to end these tax 'loopholes' much like he is trying to ram through gun control laws?
You are a hack and a hypochrite, plain & simple.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 12:39 pm to lsu13lsu)
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Flat tax. No deductions.
what are you taxing though?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 12:44 pm to Jbird)
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The link is when you get more than you pay, in essence it isn't really any different than EITC,
the question becomes, i believe, what were tehy liable for, what credits did they accumulate, and what did they pay and when
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You won’t find any $429 million tax refund in Facebook’s financial statements. Indeed, the company says it had a $559 million federal tax liability in 2012. But that liability isn’t an actual payment. In a footnote, the company also said that it had a $1.03 billion “excess tax benefit” last year related to “stock option exercises and other equity awards.” That benefit is what flips the federal tax liability into a refund. (A small portion is applied against state taxes.)
that "excess tax benefit" sounds like they overpaid (at least on paper) last year and are receiving those amounts back this year. this is nothing like the EITC, which is basically a credit for just existing (with a certain income/dependent requirement level)
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Facebook says that it anticipates reducing its tax liability in the future by an additional $2.17 billion by using further net operating loss carry-forwards that it has banked.
this is going to make some people rage 
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Powerman
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 12:57 pm to Reubaltaich)
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So tell me then, barry has been prez for 4 years now, the dems had the House & Senate for two years, barry & the dems has had the WH & the Senate since 2008.
WHY has this not been fixed?
I see you backed off of calling him a hack and have resorted to this
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Layabout
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 3:29 pm to Reubaltaich)
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You are a hack and a hypochrite, plain & simple.
Bite me. 
And learn how to spell it if you're going to call people names.
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BBONDS25
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 3:45 pm to Layabout)
Link to this bill the dems are proposing?
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Layabout
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:06 pm to BBONDS25)
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Link to this bill the dems are proposing?
The reference to it was buried in the previous link to the Center for Tax Justice:
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Some members of Congress have recently taken aim at this remaining tax break. In July of 2011, Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) introduced the “Ending Excess Executive Corporate Deductions for Stock Options Act,” to require companies to treat stock options the same for both book and tax purposes. Levin has signaled his intention to introduce similar legislation in early 2013. According to calculations made by Levin’s staff using IRS data, in the past five years U.S. companies have consistently deducted far more stock options for tax purposes than they recorded as a book expense. This “excess” deduction, according to Levin’s calculations, has ranged between $12 billion and $61 billion a year.
Levin introduced a similar bill in 2009.
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Reubaltaich
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| re: Earned Income Tax Credit or Facebook's fair share (Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:10 pm to Powerman)
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I see you backed off of calling him a hack and have resorted to this
Others have stated what I think it should be, a flat tax.
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