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monroesaintsfan 
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monroe
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 1:06 am to THRILLHO)
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This. Payton is saying all the right things about the leader of the defense for the past 5 years. He's too soft for an ILB and too slow for OLB in a 3-4. He won't be on the team next year except possibly as a vet min backup.
This. Which might happen since he may not even be offered the vet min with another team on the open market. Even at the min he'd still make a killing with all of his guaranteed money.
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Sophandros 
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:07 am to THRILLHO)
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You can convert whatever the frick you want into a signing bonus. Roster bonus, base salary, MAYBE even a given year's prorated signing bonus (no team would ever be in such a bad position to even have to do that).
I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.
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BobBoucher
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Overland Park, KS
Member since Jan 2008
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:07 am to Gugich22)
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I'm pretty sure I would have sex with Mickey Loomis
What you mean to say is, you're pretty sure you'd let Mickey Loomis have sex with you.
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Farva
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since May 2009
769 posts
| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:23 am to THRILLHO)
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Lofton was a quasi-legit possibility at being cut (would save $2.6m)
No. Not even a little.
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:17 am to Sophandros)
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I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.
The bigest is that you cannot restructure per se in the last year of a contract- like Vilma. You can cut him and sign him back in a new deal though. His $8.6mil cap hit is completely unworkable. I've been a big Vilma fan since he arrived. Dunno if he can be worth the vet minimum approaching a million in a 3-4 tho
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monroesaintsfan
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monroe
Member since Feb 2010
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:05 pm to blueslover)
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Dunno if he can be worth the vet minimum approaching a million in a 3-4 tho
This is the gist of the Vilma argument imo. I don't think any team, even 4-3 teams, will offer him any more than the min. So if the Saints wanted him he probably would come back for that.
But do they really want him back? It's not like he was much more than average in his prime in a 3-4. And his prime days are far in the past.
Maybe Payton wasn't blowing smoke when he talked about him fitting in, though. I guess we'll see.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2005
23984 posts
| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:12 pm to geauxtigers87)
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anyone else starting to think will smith takes a deal like this for one more season here?
taking the money upfront? Yea, I think he'd take that deal 
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THRILLHO
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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| re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract (Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:20 pm to Sophandros)
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I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.
You can't really abuse the cap, you can only make this year's problem into future problems.
Base salary can absolutely be converted into signing bonus. Brady did it last year:
LINK
Brees is definitely going to do it this year.
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