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Wally Sparks 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:37 pm to chalmetteowl)
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only downside is that FCS schools can accuse the FBS of collusion to hold them down financially by not paying them to be whipping boys...
What are they going to do, force them to play FCS schools?
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VerlanderBEAST 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:38 pm to beaverfever)
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yeah the MAC is the Big ten's Sunbelt just worse.
The MAC>>>>>>>Sun Belt. 
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ProjectP2294 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:43 pm to VerlanderBEAST)
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The MAC>>>>>>>Sun Belt.
I would argue this point if it weren't you posting it. Alas, you might be the dumbest person on this board, so I'll just let it go.
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KosmoCramer 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:54 pm to ProjectP2294)
Also, Ohio State announced they are only scheduling BCS schools in their non-conference schedule.
I don't know if they will still schedule an in-state school like Ohio or Kent State.
I really like that move on Ohio States part.
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Tiger1242 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:10 pm to ProjectP2294)
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I would argue this point if it weren't you posting it. Alas, you might be the dumbest person on this board, so I'll just let it go.
That's just perfect, absolutely perfect and spot on
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molsusports
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:38 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
For anyone with the time: is the Big Ten's recent winning percentage against mid-majors worse than it is against FCS teams? Because they do occasionally lose to FCS teams.
This is great for pandering but not meaningful IMO. What would be meaningful would be a commitment to playing heads up games between them and other major conferences (top to bottom matchups between the Big 10 and either SEC or PAC)
For a real team a traffic cone is a traffic cone.
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trackfan
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:32 pm to Baloo)
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I do agree with this, but OTOH, I hate teams patting themselves on the back for having a tough schedule because their traffic cones are tougher than another team's traffic cones. It's not how crappy your rent-a-wins are, it's how good the top teams on your schedule are.
bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.
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LSU has had a top ten schedule for the past five seasons and yes, it has included the occasional FCS team. It has also included a steady diet of top 25 teams from other conferences, and the toughest SEC schedule possible.
Wrong again. 2011 was the only time in the last five years that any of the computers rated LSU's schedule in the top ten.
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trackfan
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:35 pm to chalmetteowl)
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only downside is that FCS schools can accuse the FBS of collusion to hold them down financially by not paying them to be whipping boys...
So what. FCS schools have no recourse. By the way, in 2012, not only did Notre Dame not play any FCS schools, they didn't play an non-AQ schools either.
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Walter White
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:37 pm to Captain Ron)
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They can all pass around CMU, WMU, EMU, Miami-Ohio, Ohio U, etc..
Like a bag of Oreos...
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fargobison
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:55 pm to Walter White)
This might not even happen...
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Taylor said he got his information from another Big Ten athletic director on Wednesday, who told him some schools in the power conference don’t want to give up the FCS game.
“One of (the ADs) said we’re not all in the upper echelon of the Big Ten,” Taylor said. “We need those guys. Our coaches would hang us if we played only non-FCS teams.”
He said one factor was the need to reach six victories to become bowl eligible. That in theory would be tougher for some Big Ten teams if only Football Bowl Subdivision games were on the slate.
Taylor said he also talked with an athletic director from the Big 12 Conference, who told him that league has never discussed not scheduling FCS teams.
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KosmoCramer
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:13 pm to molsusports)
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What would be meaningful would be a commitment to playing heads up games between them and other major conferences (top to bottom matchups between the Big 10 and either SEC or PAC)
The Big Ten did this with the Pac-10 but the Pac-10 backed out. Fact.
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GeauxColonels 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:26 pm to trackfan)
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So what. FCS schools have no recourse. By the way, in 2012, not only did Notre Dame not play any FCS schools, they didn't play an non-AQ schools either.
When did Navy & BYU become AQ schools?
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molsusports
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 1:57 am to trackfan)
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LSU has had a top ten schedule for the past five seasons and yes, it has included the occasional FCS team. It has also included a steady diet of top 25 teams from other conferences, and the toughest SEC schedule possible.
Wrong again. 2011 was the only time in the last five years that any of the computers rated LSU's schedule in the top ten.
I didn't make the claim and I'm not one that thinks the computers do a good job of differentiating what makes a schedule strong for teams of different calibers.
But FWIW
The NCAA ranked LSU #9 in 2012
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Massey ranked LSU #5 in 2012 (under SOS in that chart)
LINK
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you realize LSU had a tremendously difficult schedule in 2011 (setting a record for the number of ranked teams beaten in a season).
Any evaluation of schedule strength that did not place LSU #1 for 2011 frankly exposed itself as a system of questionable and probably little validity
LINK
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loweralabamatrojan 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 4:12 am to molsusports)
If you schedule an FCS team, you are a pussy. Don't schedule them anymore. Its a detriment to the game.
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Baloo
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:45 am to trackfan)
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bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.
A crappy team is a crappy team. The best FCS teams could beat the worst FBS teams pretty consistently. Savannah State couldn't, but Montana or App St are routinely better than the dregs of the Sun Belt or the WAC.
And while I agree the MAC actually is better than the Sun Belt, and I rather enjoy MAC football, no team should pat itself on the back for playing a tough schedule because it decided to beat Central Michigan by 20 instead of beating Southern Illinois by 50. It's still a rent-a-win, and the marginal value of toughness is negligible over the course of the season.
Play, and beat, good teams. The only school that doesn't play FCS teams that can truly talk smack is USC, because they play a Pac-12 schedule and then play Notre Dame and routinely another high end ACQ team. Their schedule is, year in and year out, legit.
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:50 am to trackfan)
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bullshite! Good FBS teams don't have to be on upset alert when they play crappy FCS teams like Savannah State, but they do for decent FBS teams including some from non-AQ conferences.
a shite 1A team is no different than a solid- shite 1AA team for a good team. they're all going to get worked
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2011 was the only time in the last five years that any of the computers rated LSU's schedule in the top ten.
because of the stupidity that baloo is talking about
SOS should be judged on the top 4-6 teams on your schedule
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:51 am to loweralabamatrojan)
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Don't schedule them anymore. Its a detriment to the game.
if you're scheduling a 1AA team or a shitty 1A team, it makes no difference for a good team
and beating shitty 1AA teams is a big deal for crap 1A teams who need some wins
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VABuckeye
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:53 am to molsusports)
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This is great for pandering but not meaningful IMO. What would be meaningful would be a commitment to playing heads up games between them and other major conferences (top to bottom matchups between the Big 10 and either SEC or PAC)
The B1G and SEC have several bowl games which match them up every year.
They did schedule the PAC last year and the PAC then backed out of the deal citing scheduling issues. There was basically going to be one PAC 10 - B1G matchup for every team every year.
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brg0320
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:24 am to VerlanderBEAST)
SOCON teams are greater than EMU WMU AKRON BUFFALO etc.
(SOCON teams are the app states, Georgia southerns, woffords, and furmans)
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H-Town Tiger 
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| re: So the B1G will not play FCS teams anymore (Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:10 am to ProjectP2294)
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So this is just another impediment they put in their own way so that they get on their high horse and bitch about the SEC for something else?
There is no reason to play FCS teams and frankily playing a Sun Belt or MAC team will not be any more difficult. I'd at the very least limit it to once every 5 years and keep local. If LSU plays an FCS team I'd rather it be McNeese or NW than Towson.
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