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GynoSandberg 
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 4:50 pm to fightingtiger2335)
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Cp3 use to get tourched by scrubs in nola a good bit
4/10 good job good effort
Led the league in steals 5 times
All Defensive Team 4 times
Top 10 in defensive win shares twice
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fightingtiger2335 
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:09 pm to GynoSandberg)
That's my point. A really good defender would get tourched. His last year had.more than a few.times.
So If it can happen to one of the.best I'm not gonna freak over it happening to gravy
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Jester 
LSU Fan
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:23 pm to TigerinATL)
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You are really underrating JJ. I know lots of people hated his style of play, but he's definitely in the same tier as Vasquez, every bit as productive and every bit the leader. The main difference would be Vasquez is still on a rookie deal for one more year, but after that I'd expect them to be in similar salary ranges. But I agree that there aren't many available SFs worth moving Vasquez for.
I just think Jack is extremely inefficient at running the point. He over dribbles and doesn't create much for others. I just think lateral moves are often negative as a whole because of chemistry.
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JabarkusRussell
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:29 pm to RonFNSwanson)
He is a good backup point guard. 6th man worthy.
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Lester Earl 
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:41 pm to JabarkusRussell)
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He is a good backup point guard
hasnt he proved to be more than just a backup?
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JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:49 pm to Lester Earl)
Hasn't JR Smith proved to be more than just a backup? Hasn't Ryan Andersen? There is no shame in being the 6th man.
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:13 pm to JabarkusRussell)
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Hasn't JR Smith proved to be more than just a backup?
nope. a scorer when you need him.
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Hasn't Ryan Andersen?
maybe. still like him off the bench in an ideal world.
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JohnZeroQ 
USA Fan
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:15 pm to longhorn22)
Op, Yes. Unless one better falls into our laps why trade?
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:21 pm to longhorn22)
As far as trading Gravy, I'm not totally opposed, but the trade would have to improve the team A LOT. The guy is slow and not particularly athletic but he's a terrific player. Seriously, in spite of his limitations, who the hell do we bring in at PG? Really. Assuming everyone stays healthy (realizing there will be the occasional injury and a couple of games missed here and there), the 3 and 4/5 are where we need to focus on obtaining an elite or borderline elite player.
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JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:28 pm to JabarkusRussell)
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nope. a scorer when you need him.
He's the 3rd best player on the number 2 seed. I see there are still a lot of butt hurt fans from when he use to play here. 
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:30 pm to JabarkusRussell)
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He's the 3rd best player on the number 2 seed.
And yet, he's still an a-hole and can lose a game with his assholiness.
I don't have any doubt about his talent, btw.
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JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:34 pm to VOR)
I'm not talking about his hard headedness (he drove Karl nuts). I'm talking about his ability to be a starter. Barkley and a few of the Inside the NBA guys felt he was robbed of an All-Star spot.
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jfran23
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:01 pm to longhorn22)
NO
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LosLobos111
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:56 pm to jfran23)
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NO
Who would you have over gravy pray tell?
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josh336
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:57 pm to LosLobos111)
Trade one of our best players? Yeah, that makes sense
Sounds like some of you just are turned off by his limitations and aren't able to see all the good he does. The proof is in the advanced stats.
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GynoSandberg
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:44 pm to josh336)
The advanced stat of advanced stats has him as the 20th best PG in the NBA
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vargas43
LSU Fan
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Member since Dec 2012
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:17 pm to longhorn22)
I like him, however he doesn't need to be shooting the ball as much as he does.
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Walter White
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| re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:25 pm to Jester)
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Gravy Train
Yessuh
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