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LSUAce007  Kentucky Fan UK Basketball Fan Member since Feb 2007 8654 posts
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| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 6:53 am to TheDoc)
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If he can't sound good without being tweaked in a studio then where's the talent?
C'mon man. One subpar live performance and he doesn't have talent? He's not like Akon or T-Pain. He's not an autotune guy. The guy has paid his dues too. He was ghost writer for a lot of popular artists out there today for the last several years and outside of his performance Sunday night he's done everything to take full advantage of his opportunity.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:24 am to LSUAce007)
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C'mon man. One subpar live performance and he doesn't have talent?
It's a legit question. Where's the talent?
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LSUAce007  Kentucky Fan UK Basketball Fan Member since Feb 2007 8654 posts
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| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:10 am to TheDoc)
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It's a legit question.
No it's not. Do your research and look up more of his live performances before you label the man as untalented. You hear one live performance that wasn't very good and you automatically assume that he lacks talent. He's not a typical pop artist. For one he actually writes his own music which is sadly more you can say about 90% of today's pop stars. I'm not even an R&B fan, so it takes a lot for me to like an R&B artist. As for him choosing to sing Forest Gump at Grammys, I have no idea what he was thinking. It's not one of his better songs. I don't know if he was singing to for shock value to get more attention because he's singing about a same-sex relationship or what, but it was obviously a mistake plus he didn't even sing it well. But his full catalog no doubt trumps one bad, albeit very visible performance.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:22 am to LSUAce007)
I've listened to more live performances and find him to be a lot of hype honestly
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JohnZeroQ  USA Fan Pelicans of Lafourche Member since Jan 2012 2071 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 9:00 am to LSUAce007)
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As for him choosing to sing Forest Gump at Grammys, I have no idea what he was thinking. It's not one of his better songs
Frank Ocean hates LSU?
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Kayhill Brown  UConn Fan Member since May 2010 441 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:42 pm to TheDoc)
The talent is in the album he crafted and WROTE songs for. This was not a good performance, I'll give you that. But the way a lot of people seem to describe talent is just a great voice you're born with. Ocean is a song writer. And a pretty good one.
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Lazy But Talented  LSU Fan Baton Rouge/New Orleans Member since Aug 2011 2923 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 5:08 pm to TheDoc)
He's a great artist.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

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That can't sing without the help of a studio
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HeadyBrosevelt  Hawaii Fan Member since Jan 2013 3601 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:53 pm to TheDoc)
Hey Doc, Phish>Frank Ocean ???
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

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I'll give you that one
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ElroyJetSon Belmont Fan Downtown Member since Jul 2011 1486 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:30 pm to TheDoc)
His first 2 albums have been classics
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carrotsticktiger  LSU Fan Mandeville, Louisiana Member since Apr 2012 2037 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:54 pm to TheDoc)
frick the frank haters Frank Ocean-We All Try listen to the beat, his lyrics, and his singing 
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George Feeny  Auburn Fan Auburn, AL Member since Mar 2011 154 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 12:55 am to Chef Leppard)
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Because if you say its written from the perspective of jen-nay then he's singing it as a woman. fricking gay
:facepalm: The kid is gay. He caused a lot of controversy coming out. Performing this son on a huge stage is a way of standing by that choice. Bad choice and bad performance, not a bad artist.
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LSU Red24  LSU Fan Louisiana Member since Feb 2007 4024 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 2:00 am to LSUAce007)
Doc, you're outta control. It's clearly just not your cup of tea. That's fine. But Calling the dude untalented is just showing your ignorance and stubbornness. Also, this :
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The guy has paid his dues too. He was ghost writer for a lot of popular artists out there today for the last several years and outside of his performance Sunday night he's done everything to take full advantage of his opportunity.
Listen to some of the lyrics of his songs and actually think about it. He can write.
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Walt OReilly Cubs Fan Member since Oct 2005 64992 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:53 am to TheDoc)
heard of him before the Grammys the dude is absolute shit
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ItNeverRains  LSU Fan Franklin, TN Member since Oct 2007 4592 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:59 am to TheDoc)
I thought FO was garbage also, but Stephen Jenkins from 3EB is a phemomenonal artist and a terrible live vocalist. I'd still consider him a talented artist. That said, Stephen J is Lennon/McCartney next to FO
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 12:01 pm to Walt OReilly)
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heard of him before the Grammys the dude is absolute shite
Agreed. I just don't get it. I think he's just a ton of hype.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88194 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 12:02 pm to ItNeverRains)
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but Stephen Jenkins from 3EB is a phemomenonal artist and a terrible live vocalist.
He's also legally deaf. I've seen them live before and he was great..
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JordonfortheJ  Alabama Fan Lurker mode; 81.7% Member since Mar 2012 6456 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:12 pm to Chef Leppard)
I'm pretty sure forrest gump was a dude...why would he say 'she'. You really can't interpret lyrics can you?
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Walt OReilly Cubs Fan Member since Oct 2005 64992 posts

| re: Frank Ocean? (Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:23 pm to TheDoc)
it amazes and fricking pisses me off "artists" like this guy make it in the music industry
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