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longhorn22
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Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


He is definitely one of the most improved players in the league this year and is on the rise. Do yall see him continuing to get better or he is nearing his "peak"?

I think we should sell, sell, sell! Get what we can for him while he's hot because I dont see him lasting forever with this play....

Happy we are getting this out of him right now. He has definitely taken advantage of this opportunity.







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RonFNSwanson
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Most people will agree with you.


But I would like him on this team. PG is not a position that you NEED your best player to play. He is a great complement to the other players we have.






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teke184
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


The problem with "selling high" on him is getting a replacement who is as affordable and/or as good a compliment to our other players.

Vasquez is a good distributor and knows where he can take good shots from. He is also only going to cost $2m next year and get a QO of at least $3m in two seasons.


We've got a better shot with him than we do with some of the misfit toys that will be available at our price range.






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Jester
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


I'm on board the Gravy Train





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fightingtiger2335
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


What signs is he showing of slowing down? He's been our most consistent player on a great contract

Why do most hornet fans want to trade any body who is doing better than expected for another unknown?







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teke184
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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Why do most hornet fans want to trade any body who is doing better than expected for another unknown?


"Residual trauma from the days where any good Hornets player would force their way out of town" is my guess.






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DeionDeion
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Is Greivis the best PG in the league? no
Will he ever be? no

But he is 26 in his first year as a full starter and playing really well

And right now we have NO ONE behind him...
Rivers no thank you right now
Roberts don't get me started I don't want him back

I like Greivis on the hornets he brings fire, leadership, he is vocal, and you need a vocal guy coupled with the silence of Gordon

I think we need to focus on SF and maybe a C of the future






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Hazelnut
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Draft CJ McCollum and sell high on Gravy.





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WB504
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


I like GV and his contract is very friendly but ultimately I think you have to trade him. Two of his biggest weakness, speed and athleticism, he can't really improve on.

I'm just saying when it is time for his contract extension, I don't want the Hornets to be the ones to pay him.






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longhorn22
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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He is a great complement to the other players we have.



agree...I'm not saying I'm not on the Gravy Train..but I just see him as being a great PG to come off the bench. I never saw him as a starting PG. If he continues to facilitate like he is doing then I'm fine with that, just dont want him thinking he is a 20 pt 10 assists guy. Hes more of a 10/10 guy which is great....but the league is becoming a PG driven league...it will be interesting to see how it turns out






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supe12sta12z
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


At this point, you don't know how much he commands. Will he give the team a discount? I think there's a good chance unless he grows a big head which I doubt happens.





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teke184
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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I'm just saying when it is time for his contract extension, I don't want the Hornets to be the ones to pay him.


He may get paid but I don't think we can get a workable replacement for cheaper outside of using a draft pick on one or having Rivers miraculously develop.

Lots of points out there who are either starters or on their second contracts are making around $8m+. If we bring in a Devin Harris or other such castoff, they'll get paid as much or more than Vasquez but may not mesh nearly as well with our other key pieces like Gordon and Davis.






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corndeaux
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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Will he give the team a discount? I think there's a good chance unless he grows a big head which I doubt happens


not sure what the rookie deal rules are, but if they dont plan on dealing him this offseason, they should offer him an extension in the $4-5mil/year range. he probably takes it. it is still good value for what he does, leaves space for other moves, and makes his contract more moveable in the future.






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fightingtigers98
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


point guards on last 10 championship teams

2012-Mario Chalmers(Heat)
2011-Jason Kidd(Mavs)
2010-Derrick Fisher(Lakers
2009-Derrick Fisher(Lakers)
2008-Rajon Rondo(Celtics)
2007-Tony Parker(Spurs)
2006-Jason Williams(Heat)
2005-Tony Parker(Spurs)
2004-Chauncey Billups(Pistons)
2003-Tony Parker(Spurs)
2002-Derrick Fisher(Lakers)

you don't need an elite pg to win a championship






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supe12sta12z
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Parker early in his career, Fisher, Kidd, and Williams late in his Career was not thought to have defensive presence during their title run.

What do they all have in common? HOFers type of talent. That's the focus if you want to talk about Championships.






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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Lopez and Vasquez are the most likely trade chips from where I sit, and thisI team needs to improve. I think that small set makes it more likely that he goes than stays.

Dell may not move him before the deadline, but Dell likes to work in the trade framework, it seems likely to happen before his deal expires in 1.5 seasons.






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corndeaux
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


One of Lopez/Smith is getting moved. They need a defense/rebounding big besides Davis in the rotation.

If Dell moves Vasquez for Jennings and gives BJ an 8 figure deal, I will develop a serious drinking problem.






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GynoSandberg
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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you don't need an elite pg to win a championship


Exactly! All you really need is one of the best player(s) of our generation on your team.

quote:

2012-Mario Chalmers(Heat)


Lebron and Wade

quote:

2011-Jason Kidd(Mavs)


Dirk

quote:

2010-Derrick Fisher(Lakers
2009-Derrick Fisher(Lakers)


Kobe, Gasol, Bynum

quote:

2008-Rajon Rondo(Celtics)


Garnett and Pierce

quote:

2007-Tony Parker(Spurs)


Duncan

quote:

2006-Jason Williams(Heat)


Wade and Shaq (Zo and Gary Payton off the bench)

quote:

2005-Tony Parker(Spurs)


Duncan

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2004-Chauncey Billups(Pistons)


Was the best player on his team.

quote:

2003-Tony Parker(Spurs)


Duncan

quote:

2002-Derrick Fisher(Lakers)


Shaq and Kobe



Basically, we don't need a stud PG. We need LBJ, Kobe, Shaq, Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan. Only 5 of the best player to EVER play the game






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GynoSandberg
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


Not to mention that Rondo, Kidd, Billups, and Parker will all likely be in the Hall of Fame





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TigerinATL
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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?


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Basically, we don't need a stud PG. We need LBJ, Kobe, Shaq, Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan. Only 5 of the best player to EVER play the game


You don't need another all time great. You need the core of Gordon, Davis and Anderson to live up to the hype and then you need a good but not great SF. Someone who is a versatile defender that would allow Vasquez to guard the worst perimeter player, and someone who's a good enough shooter/scorer to keep the defense honest and create spacing. Demps has enough time to see what his SF prospects are and still move Vasquez before next season if the draft or FA don't work out.






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