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aldawg2323  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Jan 2010 249 posts

| Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 5:53 am)
Would anyone do this? I have about 15k in IRAs/401ks. I need about that much more to make a down payment on a 4 unit rental. Seller asking 137k (i think it could be had for ~120K), rental income ~1,600/month. I think I know the answer but would appreciate your thoughts.
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I Love Bama  Alabama Fan Alabama Member since Nov 2007 27097 posts
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| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 6:00 am to aldawg2323)
I would do it but I'm a real estate whore
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Janky  LSU Fan Team Primo Member since Jun 2011 2514 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 7:22 am to I Love Bama)
You could buy the real estate inside the Ira and not have to liquidate it.
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Powerman  LSU Fan Corpus Christi, TX Member since Jan 2004 115660 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 7:30 am to Janky)
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You could buy the real estate inside the Ira and not have to liquidate it.
Right You can use an IRA to buy rental property I think there are some rules like you might have to have it managed by a 3rd party You don't have to do a cash distribution
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Janky  LSU Fan Team Primo Member since Jun 2011 2514 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 7:58 am to Powerman)
Yes, it has to be a self directed Ira. There are a few banks that offer this.
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Powerman  LSU Fan Corpus Christi, TX Member since Jan 2004 115660 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 8:00 am to Janky)
I'm assuming any brokerage account IRA like an etrade account would be considered self directed?
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Janky  LSU Fan Team Primo Member since Jun 2011 2514 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 8:19 am to Powerman)
No. I have only seen it done through a bank and only a few banks offer it. I am almost 100% sure a regular brokerage IRA will not be able to do it.
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I Love Bama  Alabama Fan Alabama Member since Nov 2007 27097 posts
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| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 9:05 am to aldawg2323)
I would steer clear of using the suggested option. One mistake with paperwork and the IRS owns your quadplex . Not kidding.....
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jso0003  Auburn Fan Birmingham/Atlanta Member since Jun 2009 4456 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 11:22 am to aldawg2323)
Yea I believe you would need to roll these over into a very specified kind of self directed IRA in order to buy property within it. Definitely consult with a professional on that.
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ItNeverRains  LSU Fan Franklin, TN Member since Oct 2007 4598 posts
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| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:15 pm to jso0003)
You can do it with an HSA also I believe
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foshizzle  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2008 25118 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 4:54 pm to Janky)
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You could buy the real estate inside the Ira and not have to liquidate it.
Correct. With a self-directed IRA you can buy basically whatever you want (real estate, art, a stamp collection, etc.) But I don't know the legal details about how to set this up so all I can advise here is to consult an expert.
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11thACR Appalachian St. Fan Georgia Member since Mar 2012 239 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 5:08 pm to foshizzle)
This can be done but very carefully and possible higer fees on IRA that would allow real estate investments of this kind. Can't you borrow the money in any, and I mean any other way. Have you got experience in rental property ? What makes this deal over the top positive ?
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aldawg2323  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Jan 2010 249 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 5:38 pm to 11thACR)
I could bring in a 2nd party to split it with, but would like to avoid that. The bottom line is that I am going to have to come up with ~25K cash. I have ~10k to put down and ~15k in these retirement accounts. Would a seperate mortgage for the down payment be possible here? The payments on the mortgage are easy for me to handle, I just dont have the cash. I just purchased my first one last fall and happily plopped down 20% which drained my cash pretty good. So I do have landlord experience. It all hinges on quality of tenant. It is near the one I recently purchased and is in much better shape. Its a good buy, even at the listed price IMO.
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I B Freeman Member since Oct 2009 2189 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/10/13 at 6:48 pm to aldawg2323)
You have to use a bank with trust services or a trust company like this company LINK I know nothing about.
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tigerrocket  LSU Fan Member since Aug 2008 59 posts

| re: Cash out IRA to purchase rental property (Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:30 am to I B Freeman)
There are custodians who allow you to purchase real estate in an IRA, but I believe you also have to pay all the expenses out of the IRA account. If you don't have the cash in the IRA, you must contribute to the IRA. If you contribute to the IRA, you better be eligible. All rent payments are made to the IRA account as well. I researched this a while, back and thought it was not a good option for me. The best use would be if you are paying cash for the property, have a hefty IRA balance, and are very good at following IRS rules.
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