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Placebeaux
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled

which country over there could take on one carrier group much less two?


cajunangelle
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Limiting a pay increase does not equal a pay cut.


I used to counsel sailors wives as an omsbudsman that qualified for Navy Relief and food stamps. To the enlisted of any military branch, this is a pay cut of standards they should not have to live in.


DvlsAdvocat
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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I used to counsel sailors wives as an omsbudsman that qualified for Navy Relief and food stamps. To the enlisted of any military branch, this is a pay cut of standards they should not have to live in.



Really? So not getting money they weren't already getting, but still paying them more than they were, is considered a draconian pay cut?



EDIT: You DO understand that they are still getting a raise, correct?
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Navytiger74
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Sea conditions?


No sea conditions favor us (larger forces are less affected by sea-state).

It's space. The gulf is a relatively confined space with a ton of white shipping and a lot of real estate that would limit our ability to maneuver and have a pretty significant impact on our force advantage.
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Limiting a pay increase does nto equal a pay cut.


Well, to be fair the government says that limiting a budget increase is "cutting the budget".


Jbird
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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draconian pay cut


It's the same logic the Savior uses. So base line budgeting for the Fedgov is projected to go up 4% someone says lets reduce the increase to 2% and fricking idiots come out of the wood work screaming about evil white dudes wanting to kill granny and hate poor black people.


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Navytiger74
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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which country over there could take on one carrier group much less two?


Well I like our chances, but keep in mind that they don't have to "win" the way we have to win.


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cajunangelle
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
Yes, I understand they get COLA's and pay increases.

But if you read further past the, 'they won't get a full percentage of pay increase,' line...

quote:

Panetta will recommend to Congress that military salaries be limited to a 1% increase in 2014. The Pentagon has calculated that the Labor Department's 2014 Employment Cost Index is expected to be above 1% but wants to still cut back on pay because of "budget uncertainties," a department official told CNN. In 2013, a 1.7% increase was approved, based on the index, which has been the basis for military pay for the last several years.

Three Pentagon officials have confirmed details of the plan to CNN. The Joint Chiefs of Staff have also agreed to Panetta's proposed pay plan. Final approval for the pay would come from Congress in the form of the 2014 budget.

The recommendation is tied to the Defense Department's 2014 budget recommendation, which was expected to be sent to Congress this month, one of the officials said. But the officials acknowledge it is going to be seen as an effort to push Congress to stop the automatic budget cuts that could go into effect if no deal is reached on spending reductions.


It is a pre-cursor to try to cease the clusterfrick that ceases the military- automatic budget cuts.

I will not buy into the cut big gov is good so do this mentality. There is ---plenty of room--- to cut spending without not giving a full military COLA and or increase of pay.

They waste money on studying field mice and chinese hookers. I say leave the military alone, period and or give them big payraises. As well as, both the senate and congress on both sides of the political spectrum should take paycuts way before the military does not get a full percentage increase of pay.

CNN and the media call this a pay cut because they may view it like I do. OR they are playing politics like the Pentagon to make it look like they have decreased their spending so they don't get gutted down the line.
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asurob1
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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More breaking news:

Panetta To Recommend Troops Have Their Pay Cut


Panetta will recommend to Congress that military salaries be limited to a 1% increase in 2014

You're not even a good liar republican rex.


asurob1
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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I used to counsel sailors wives as an omsbudsman that qualified for Navy Relief and food stamps. To the enlisted of any military branch, this is a pay cut of standards they should not have to live in.



really? SO in your crazy fricked up world a pay raise is a pay cut.

Again, you're not very good at this.


cajunangelle
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
Do you go into threads and copy cat what someone said because you don't know wtf you are talking about?

CNN called it a decrease a CUT. Read my post before this before trying to sound like you know wtf you are talking about in trying to get a good gotcha in.

And again, you are a hack. Why have you not commented in my Ed Schultz thread since you are so well informed?
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Mr. Katanga
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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the middle east has been a hot bed of activity for the last 20 years. I have no idea if one carrier is enough to do what is required


and what is required?


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CITWTT
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
Note to Nutjob from Oboe, you and yours have free access to shut down the Gulf whenever you want. We be scared of all of the technology that you have announced aver the last few years. Protecting the Straits of Hormuz (all 70 miles of it) is too much of a chore for us.


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trackfan
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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You're not even a good liar republican rex.


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Meauxjeaux
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Panetta will recommend to Congress that military salaries be limited to a 1% increase in 2014, instead of the previously recommended 1.7%.


THE LAST 20 YEARS THAT HAS BEEN A CUT? IS IT A CUT OR NOT??????


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Meauxjeaux
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Panetta will recommend to Congress that military salaries be limited to a 1% increase in 2014


THE LAST 20 YEARS THAT HAS BEEN A CUT? IS IT A CUT OR NOT??????

LOOKY AT ALL THE LEFTTARDS BRINGING THE CONSISTENCY.


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USMCTiger03
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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really? SO in your crazy fricked up world a pay raise is a pay cut.

What's the standard of living increase?


Can we expect ANY entitlement spending cuts?

No?


Siderophore
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Sea conditions?


Vague statement, but basically.

The US Navy is designed for blue water, deep ocean operations.

With all of the traffic especially, little to no room to maneuver in the PG


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Sid in Lakeshore
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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Well, to be fair the government says that limiting a budget increase is "cutting the budget".


We are not the government. Troops are gettign a 1% INCREASE. OP says they are getting pay cut. Whack this thread.


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Sid in Lakeshore
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re: BREAKING: Truman deployment cancelled
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There is ---plenty of room--- to cut spending without not giving a full military COLA and or increase of pay.


The rest of the Federal govt has not gotten a COLA since 2010....why do we coddle the military?

The rest of the GOVT. is facing "SEQUESTRATION" whatever that is. Why should the military be receiving any raise whatsoever?

In stead of crying about the military pay adjustment not being enough, let's focus on what other areas of government need to be cut in order to acheive a balanced budget. A true ballanced budget.


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