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C 
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The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
17392 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:04 pm to Jbird)
decatur is trolling us.
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Jbird 
Iowa Fan
Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
4868 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:05 pm to C)
He has to be only Ethan, Otto, Rex and the housemate are that stupid. 
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JohnnyKilroy 
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
5134 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:05 pm to C)
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decatur is trolling us.
Likely.
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Mr. Katanga
Member since Jan 2013
23 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:07 pm to dante)
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BUT, if the administration gets to define "who are the terrorist" we are in trouble.
When is a terrorist defined, then? after the deaths of civilians?
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LSUCouyon
LSU Fan
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
1501 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:09 pm to blowmeauburn)
How do you have a fair trial for an a-hole denned up in an Afghan cave. I said nothing about domestic assassinations. Show me an American running around with known terrorists playing jihadist and I'd have no problem taking him out.
Are you not concerned that the terrorist we do take out don't get a fair trial/ either?
What does the right to bear arms have to do with this question? Or whether or not I can defend my home?
Question: how many of you would have had the same position if GW Bush were doing this? Playing Devil's advocate here.
I still say we have to trust the CIA to make these decisions on the battlefield. Domestically it's an entirely different situation and the 2nd addresses that.
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Decatur
LSU Fan
Member since Mar 2007
14878 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:09 pm to C)
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decatur is trolling us.
What?
I'm trying to figure out how the Right all of a sudden has gotten soft on Al Qaeda
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Jbird
Iowa Fan
Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
4868 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:10 pm to LSUCouyon)
Um what about a suspected money launderer in Yemen?
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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
17392 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:10 pm to LSUCouyon)
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How do you have a fair trial for an a-hole denned up in an Afghan cave
The constitution allows for trials in absentia for treason.
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JohnnyKilroy
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
5134 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:10 pm to LSUCouyon)
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I still say we have to trust the CIA
Holy. shite.
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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
17392 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:12 pm to Decatur)
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I'm trying to figure out how the Right all of a sudden has gotten soft on Al Qaeda
abuse of power by eliminating congress and the judiciary will do that to you.
This post was edited on 2/5 at 2:12 pm
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Lsut81
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2005
54810 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:12 pm to LSUCouyon)
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Question: how many of you would have had the same position if GW Bush were doing this? Playing Devil's advocate here.
frick Bush... He really got this rights grab going and now Obama is doubling down on stupid
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DvlsAdvocat 
Alabama Fan
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
23932 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:12 pm to C)
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abuse of power by eliminating congress and the judiciary will do that to you
This sounds vaguely...familiar.
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Zed
Alabama Fan
Member since Feb 2010
5669 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:13 pm to dante)
So what is it about the drones specifically that is objected to? Is it the inability for the target to surrender and have a trial? What is the acceptable alternative? Ground raids with the cooperation of the local government? Would this be satisfactory?
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WikiTiger
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2007
38216 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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I still say we have to trust the CIA
Holy. shite.
with morons like him running around, we get what we deserve
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Layabout 
UNO Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4449 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:14 pm to blowmeauburn)
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Who decides if an American citizen is running Al Quida?
Well, if he's in an Al Qeida camp in Afghanistan I'd say that's prima facie evidence that he's "running" with Al Qeida.
What's the difference between a drone strike and a conventional air strike? Seems to me the drone is the more surgical of the two, causing less collateral damage.
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JohnnyKilroy
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
5134 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:14 pm to Zed)
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So what is it about the drones specifically that is objected to?
Well for one, they routinely kill a shitload more people than thte intended target. Whole buncha kids have been droned. But they're brown kids....they don't actually count.
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DvlsAdvocat
Alabama Fan
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
23932 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:15 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
Carpet Bombing says hi...
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JohnnyKilroy
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
5134 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:16 pm to DvlsAdvocat)
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Carpet Bombing says hi...
cool
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dante
LSU Fan
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
2140 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:16 pm to Mr. Katanga)
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When is a terrorist defined, then? after the deaths of civilians?
Have you seen the list of "potential domestic terrorists" put out by DHS. Most conservative fall into at least one the categories.
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LSUCouyon
LSU Fan
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
1501 posts
| re: Drone strikes, legal, ethical and wise (Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:17 pm to WikiTiger)
So you don't think the CIA has helped protect us from terrorist attacks since 9-11?
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