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Or end up in their -----





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Okay, wait a minute. The BSA decision only deals with its position at the national level. Local sponsoring organizations, e.g., local churches, are not being forced to admit openly gay children or to allow gay scout masters. And, by the way, I'm sure most of you realize that there are gay kids in scouting now and have been for years. This ruling isn't going to cause them to show up for meetings and camping trips wearing make-up.





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Mickey Goldmill
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I want the guys arguing against gays to go back into the thread and replace every instance of "not wanting to associate with gays" with "blacks." and see how hateful you look.



Exactly.






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DawgfaninCa
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I want the guys arguing against gays to go back into the thread and replace every instance of "not wanting to associate with gays" with "blacks." and see how hateful you look.


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Exactly.


BS!

I have no problem associating with heterosexual black men.

In fact, In the 60s, I was in Northern Georgia and participated in protests to break the Sundown laws in several Georgia countries that prohibited blacks from camping out overnight in public parks.

Heterosexuals have a natural biological preference to associate with other heterosexuals.

To try to force heterosexuals into thinking there is something wrong and evil with them if they don't have the same desire to associate with homosexuals as they have to associate with heterosexuals or natural comfort level when they associate with homosexuals as they have when they associate with heterosexuals ls sinister, insane and inhumane.

It may be part of the "gay Nazis" plan to do that but it will never succeed!!!







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Placebeaux
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Yeah I with you. I dont see blacks wanting gays to piggyback on their parade.





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Anodyne
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I think the pro-gay crowd is missing the point of the OP. I don't care if they allow openly gay scouts, but it does pose a couple of issues...one already pointed out and large in scale:

(1) If the BSA allows this, you can rest assured that churches and individuals church members will pull their kids and thus their money and support, which will necessarily result in there being fewer troops, fewer volunteers and ultimately, less people receiving the positive benefits of being a scout. So, you have to ask yourself with what will be lost, is it worth it?
(2) No one would think it is a good idea to have a 15 year old boy and 15 year old girl sharing a bathroom or tent with one another...why then, is it a good idea to let two gay boys share the same in the name of Scouts? Maybe even worse, no one would allow a horny boy to sleep in the same tent or share the same shower room with an unwilling girl. So why allow a potentially horny gay boy to do the same with a straight boy? Why put the straight kid in that position?

People leap to take a side in this issue without thinking of the consequence.






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DawgfaninCa
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So gay boys shouldn't be allowed to go to school with straight boys? After all, the teacher is there to teach math and science. Not sexual orientation.


The Boys Scouts is a private religious organization not a public secular school.


The Boys Scouts is primarily about teaching young heterosexual boys survival skills.

The Boys Scouts is a heterosexual father/son bonding experience.

You can teach heterosexual boys to tolerate homosexual sexual orientation or preference in sex education or psychology classes in the public secular schools.

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Or is it only the sleeping arrangements part that is bothering you? Because boys and girls never go camping together without orgies breaking out


What a dumb remark.

If you allow a young boy and a young girl to sleep together overnight alone in a tent you are only asking for trouble.

It's the same thing when you allow a homosexual young boy and a heterosexual young boy to sleep together overnight alone in a tent.

You are asking for trouble.

Therefore, the common sense thing to do is not allow even the remote possibility of the trouble happening.









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It's the same thing when you allow a homosexual young boy and a heterosexual young boy to sleep together overnight alone in a tent.

You are asking for trouble.


Not entirely true, but to be fair neither is saying that such a situation would NEVER cause a problem. As with everything else, it depends on the individuals involved because (as shocking as it may be) homosexuals aren't having sex, or even seeking sex 24/7/365. AND... Many of them, myself included, have lifelong heterosexual male friends. I'd rather self-castrate than make a pass at my married friend of 30 years. Not only would it be weird and creepy, it would be inappropriate- and I know right from wrong.

The BSA has every right to change this policy, or not change it, as they see fit. If they do change it, no doubt they will likely take measures to help alleviate such situations. Personally, I think that if they leave it up to local troops to decide, not much will change- at least not quickly. I wish them well with this difficult decision.






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DawgfaninCa
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Not entirely true, but to be fair neither is saying that such a situation would NEVER cause a problem. As with everything else, it depends on the individuals involved because (as shocking as it may be) homosexuals aren't having sex, or even seeking sex 24/7/365.


No one including myself is stating or implying that homosexuals have sex or even seek sex 24/7/365 but if the opportunity presents itself for a heterosexual boy and a heterosexual girl or for a homosexual boy and a heterosexual boy to have sex with each other then that heterosexual boy may think about it and act upon that opportunity and have sex with the heterosexual girl and that homosexual boy may think about it and act upon that opportunity and have sex with the heterosexual boy.

That's why the common sense approach is not to let them have the opportunity in the first place.

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Many of them, myself included, have lifelong heterosexual male friends.


So what? Maybe you and the other homosexuals are waiting on the sidelines for the breakup.

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it would be inappropriate- and I know right from wrong.


It would be inappropriate and wrong.

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The BSA has every right to change this policy, or not change it, as they see fit. If they do change it, no doubt they will likely take measures to help alleviate such situations.


We don't want to have to waste our time and the boy's time alleviating such a situation.

We want to spend all of our time teaching the boys survival skills such as how to swim, how to fish, how to cook on a fire, etc. and we want the boys to spend all of their time learning those survival skills.

It's a don't ask, don't tell, don't act policy.




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DvlsAdvocat
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I can foresee one glaring disadvantage right out of the gate being that churches will either discontinue support for scout troops altogether, or religous parents will not allow their children to participate...meaning that the money stream that is vital to keep scouts alive dries up.


Well, their policies have been shutting them out of using public school facilities for meetings and recruitment, so thats a different vein of support and revenue that was drying up under the status quo.






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DawgfaninCa
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Well, their policies have been shutting them out of using public school facilities for meetings and recruitment, so thats a different vein of support and revenue that was drying up under the status quo.



The Boy Scouts' policy of doing free work for the community more than offset any free rent that the Boys Scouts received from the community's public schools.







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nvasil1
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The Boys Scouts is a heterosexual father/son bonding experience.

When I was a Webelo scout, I spent several weeks assisting a Cub Scout Den Leader whose son was in his den. The Den Leader was a funny guy and was very active in scouting. And he bonded with his son.

Three years later, the same Den Leader was an outed gay man. So to say Scouts is only a heterosexual father/son bonding experience is simply not true, even if that's what it was meant to be.






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Mickey Goldmill
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It's the same thing when you allow a homosexual young boy and a heterosexual young boy to sleep together overnight alone in a tent.



Is the gay 10 year old going to rape the straight 10 year old? WTF dude? You are comparing a straight boy and a straight girl (who are both attracted to each other) to a gay boy and a straight boy (who are not BOTH attracted to each other).

They are 2 totally different things.






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Mickey Goldmill
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We want to spend all of our time teaching the boys survival skills such as how to swim, how to fish, how to cook on a fire, etc. and we want the boys to spend all of their time learning those survival skills.


Gay boys have no interest in swimming, fishing, cooking on a fire? Why does their sexual orientation matter AT ALL? They arent going to a sex ed class where now the BSA has to change the way they teach. Nothing would change if gay kids are suddenly allowed to join. There are plenty of gay men who are much more athletic and "macho" than you are who enjoy hunting, fishing, etc.






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CajunAngele
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How old are boy scouts nowadays? Would a 10-12 year old know he is gay? Or is it the leaders they want to be gay? If you are gay who cares? Do they want it announced before they show to camp walking toward the campfire that Billy Smith is arriving and he is gay?

I don't think a boy scout aged kid should be worrying about who he wants to have sex with or whether he is gay or not. What happened to being a kid? If you turn into Richard Simmons at maturity good for you, why announce it?



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DawgfaninCa
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When I was a Webelo scout, I spent several weeks assisting a Cub Scout Den Leader whose son was in his den. The Den Leader was a funny guy and was very active in scouting. And he bonded with his son.

Three years later, the same Den Leader was an outed gay man. So to say Scouts is only a heterosexual father/son bonding experience is simply not true, even if that's what it was meant to be.



Prove that happened.
Until you do prove that actually happened, it's just more BS to try to negate my remark.

The Boy Scouts is a heterosexual father/heterosexual son bonding experience.







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DawgfaninCa
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Is the gay 10 year old going to rape the straight 10 year old?


It wouldn't be the first time a twisted 10 year old boy took advantage of a situation and molested a straight 10 year old boy.

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WTF dude?


What a profound retort.

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You are comparing a straight boy and a straight girl (who are both attracted to each other) to a gay boy and a straight boy (who are not BOTH attracted to each other).

They are 2 totally different things.


Both the straight boy and the straight girl may not be attracted to each other but one of them may be attracted to the other and take advantage of the situation just like the twisted boy may take advantage of the situation with the straight boy.







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DawgfaninCa
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Gay boys have no interest in swimming, fishing, cooking on a fire?


Who said or implied that twisted boys didn't?

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Why does their sexual orientation matter AT ALL? They arent going to a sex ed class where now the BSA has to change the way they teach. Nothing would change if gay kids are suddenly allowed to join. There are plenty of gay men who are much more athletic and "macho" than you are who enjoy hunting, fishing, etc.


So let the twisted men who are more macho than me who know how to hunt, fish, etc. start their own Twisted Scouts organization

Then the twisted men and the twisted boys can have a bonding experience with each other.




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Mickey Goldmill
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So let the twisted men who are more macho than me who know how to hunt, fish, etc. start their own Twisted Scouts organization

Then the twisted men and the twisted boys can have a bonding experience with each other.


I really hope you are trolling here. If not, you are one fricked up individual.

Im arguing that gay 10-year-olds will not be harmful to the boy scouts and you are calling them all twisted? Ok bud.






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Mickey Goldmill
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Both the straight boy and the straight girl may not be attracted to each other but one of them may be attracted to the other and take advantage of the situation just like the twisted boy may take advantage of the situation with the straight boy.



Should women be allowed to serve in the same quarters with men in the military? I mean, there MAY be some random twisted soldier who may take advantage of her when nobody is looking.






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