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Fresh simply means it's cooked before it's aged.

yes but the concept of a product being fresh has a different value over time

there have been times in humanity when preserved foods were seen as a sign of opulence and the higher valued/better food

kind of like how formula has been the rich and poor man's source of child nutrition. or smoking. these societal memes shift over time







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NOLA may not be the best in the world, but it certainly is up there in the country. I haven't done enough international traveling to compare it to the world.





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but NOLA still sucks as a political entity


Not part of this particular discussion.






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Within Louisiana, by and large, the best food is made in New Orleans

"the best" is completely subjective. that's the entire point

as lester has even said. people should like what they like

there are societal pressures, like was just displayed, that you must like nola food because it is the perceived best

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I don't see why that seems like such a ridiculous concept to you.

mainly because i'd much rather have a large study to determine if it is, in fact, the best before i proclaim it that way






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Not part of this particular discussion.


when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?






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It basically goes into the concepts of perception and in using influential people in social groups to convince others to purchase it.


So that holds true for every restaurant that people like in New Orleans.

I find that a little tough to believe.






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but NOLA still sucks as a political entity



Well, it's good for entertainment purposes






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when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?


How was that an attack?

We're talking about food. I'm sure a thread on NOLA's poilitcal shortcomings would draw plenty of discussion.






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So that holds true for every restaurant that people like in New Orleans.

I find that a little tough to believe.


I'm not arguing specifics. Just concepts.

FWIW, I love NOLA food. I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.






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You claimed that the term 'cuisine' is a nebulous concept that no one can agree on.

no. i just asked for a definition

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You've argued about NOLA food as one entity.

people proclaimed that its best selling point is its uniqueness and singular identity

in this same thread, other cultural cuisine was dismissed, so let's not bring up diversity

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You've said you won't compare NOLA to BR because of the size difference, but then compared it to MYC or Chicago without mentioning a size difference.

they're all different levels of city

i'm not the one who initially ranked nola so nigh that it had to compare to chicago/nyc

if you want to discuss nola with medium-large metro areas, then it's fine. that eliminates it as being ranked as "the best" in anything though






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"Fresh" isn't the only quality that defines good food. But to argue that fresh food is a societal meme that shifts over time is wrong. The closer something comes to being spoiled, the worse it tastes. That's just common sense.

Can you provide another example of some tangible food beside baby food? And smoking isn't remotely related to quality of food.






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Not part of this particular discussion.


when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?



How is that 'an attack?' He's right.. we're not weighing the merits of NO's political scene right now. But I don't think anyone would attack you for doing so. I would welcome an insightful thread about it's political culture, actually.

The difference is that there are hardly ever any mature discussions about the negatives of NO. Instead, it's a bunch of juvenile bullshitee like vomit and piss, etc etc. If you want to brign something worth discussing to the table, i will happily engage you in discussion






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mainly because i'd much rather have a large study to determine if it is, in fact, the best before i proclaim it that way


So you prefer to wait for something complete unreasonable to happen while you bitch about people being biased.

As I've asked before, what's it like not being able to enjoy anything ever?






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FWIW, I love NOLA food. I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.


Fair enough. But at least you're not denying the fact that NOLA has great food.






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I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.

Everyone has to do their own cost/benefit. But this is definitely on the very periphery of the current discussion.






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How is that 'an attack?' He's right.. we're not weighing the merits of NO's political scene right now. But I don't think anyone would attack you for doing so. I would welcome an insightful thread about it's political culture, actually.


I feel like the only response I typically experience in NOLA threads that concentrate on its negatives are attacks. But that could just be my perception bias.

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The difference is that there are hardly ever any mature discussions about the negatives of NO. Instead, it's a bunch of juvenile bullshitee like vomit and piss, etc etc. If you want to brign something worth discussing to the table, i will happily engage you in discussion


I love NOLA discussions, but they're nearly impossible to have on this site. They usually just devolve, and I admittedly participate in some trolling in them after a certain point.






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But to argue that fresh food is a societal meme that shifts over time is wrong. The closer something comes to being spoiled, the worse it tastes. That's just common sense.


"common sense" today, but not always. common sense doesn't exist. it's bull shite

again. preserved foods were once seen as opulent and valued higher in society, and were perceived as being better than fresh food

fresh food was for poor people who couldn't afford the higher class of (preserved) food

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Can you provide another example of some tangible food beside baby food?

what do you mean?







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i just asked for a definition


Did they give you a workable definition or just a vague list of factors?






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So you prefer to wait for something complete unreasonable to happen while you bitch about people being biased.

i'd prefer we eliminate the bull shite before spouting it, yes

again...i want more objective thinking that is not emotional or biased

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what's it like not being able to enjoy anything ever?

i enjoy tons of stuff. i made some delicious pork chops today and i'm going to watch some homeland later

and i'm going to read a book on marketing and psychological effects on the market later

why do you think an objective reality where i don't lie to myself means i can't enjoy things?






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So all in all, you are sick of the people of Louisiana attacking others for talking down on NOLA. And you're tired of Louisiana folk on NOLA'a food dick. So you're biased. Just as biased as the people from Louisiana doing the attacking.

Then when others mention that NOLA is nationally known as a tier 1 city for food, not just people on this board, you throw out "perception."

Is this where we stand?






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