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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:57 pm to cas4t)
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Fresh simply means it's cooked before it's aged.
yes but the concept of a product being fresh has a different value over time
there have been times in humanity when preserved foods were seen as a sign of opulence and the higher valued/better food
kind of like how formula has been the rich and poor man's source of child nutrition. or smoking. these societal memes shift over time
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cas4t 
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro)
NOLA may not be the best in the world, but it certainly is up there in the country. I haven't done enough international traveling to compare it to the world.
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ProjectP2294 
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:58 pm to OWLFAN86)
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but NOLA still sucks as a political entity
Not part of this particular discussion.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:59 pm to ProjectP2294)
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Within Louisiana, by and large, the best food is made in New Orleans
"the best" is completely subjective. that's the entire point
as lester has even said. people should like what they like
there are societal pressures, like was just displayed, that you must like nola food because it is the perceived best
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I don't see why that seems like such a ridiculous concept to you.
mainly because i'd much rather have a large study to determine if it is, in fact, the best before i proclaim it that way
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WikiTiger
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:59 pm to ProjectP2294)
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Not part of this particular discussion.
when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?
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ProjectP2294
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:59 pm to WikiTiger)
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It basically goes into the concepts of perception and in using influential people in social groups to convince others to purchase it.
So that holds true for every restaurant that people like in New Orleans.
I find that a little tough to believe.
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REG861 
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:00 pm to OWLFAN86)
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but NOLA still sucks as a political entity
Well, it's good for entertainment purposes
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ProjectP2294
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:00 pm to WikiTiger)
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when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?
How was that an attack?
We're talking about food. I'm sure a thread on NOLA's poilitcal shortcomings would draw plenty of discussion.
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WikiTiger
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:01 pm to ProjectP2294)
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So that holds true for every restaurant that people like in New Orleans.
I find that a little tough to believe.
I'm not arguing specifics. Just concepts.
FWIW, I love NOLA food. I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:01 pm to ProjectP2294)
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You claimed that the term 'cuisine' is a nebulous concept that no one can agree on.
no. i just asked for a definition
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You've argued about NOLA food as one entity.
people proclaimed that its best selling point is its uniqueness and singular identity 
in this same thread, other cultural cuisine was dismissed, so let's not bring up diversity
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You've said you won't compare NOLA to BR because of the size difference, but then compared it to MYC or Chicago without mentioning a size difference.
they're all different levels of city
i'm not the one who initially ranked nola so nigh that it had to compare to chicago/nyc
if you want to discuss nola with medium-large metro areas, then it's fine. that eliminates it as being ranked as "the best" in anything though
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cas4t
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:02 pm to SlowFlowPro)
"Fresh" isn't the only quality that defines good food. But to argue that fresh food is a societal meme that shifts over time is wrong. The closer something comes to being spoiled, the worse it tastes. That's just common sense.
Can you provide another example of some tangible food beside baby food? And smoking isn't remotely related to quality of food.
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REG861
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:03 pm to WikiTiger)
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Not part of this particular discussion.
when can we talk about NOLA negatives on this site without being attacked?
How is that 'an attack?' He's right.. we're not weighing the merits of NO's political scene right now. But I don't think anyone would attack you for doing so. I would welcome an insightful thread about it's political culture, actually.
The difference is that there are hardly ever any mature discussions about the negatives of NO. Instead, it's a bunch of juvenile bullshitee like vomit and piss, etc etc. If you want to brign something worth discussing to the table, i will happily engage you in discussion
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ProjectP2294
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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mainly because i'd much rather have a large study to determine if it is, in fact, the best before i proclaim it that way
So you prefer to wait for something complete unreasonable to happen while you bitch about people being biased.
As I've asked before, what's it like not being able to enjoy anything ever?
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cas4t
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:04 pm to WikiTiger)
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FWIW, I love NOLA food. I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.
Fair enough. But at least you're not denying the fact that NOLA has great food.
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ProjectP2294
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:05 pm to WikiTiger)
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I just don't value it highly enough to tolerate everything else about NOLA.
Everyone has to do their own cost/benefit. But this is definitely on the very periphery of the current discussion.
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WikiTiger
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:06 pm to REG861)
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How is that 'an attack?' He's right.. we're not weighing the merits of NO's political scene right now. But I don't think anyone would attack you for doing so. I would welcome an insightful thread about it's political culture, actually.
I feel like the only response I typically experience in NOLA threads that concentrate on its negatives are attacks. But that could just be my perception bias.
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The difference is that there are hardly ever any mature discussions about the negatives of NO. Instead, it's a bunch of juvenile bullshitee like vomit and piss, etc etc. If you want to brign something worth discussing to the table, i will happily engage you in discussion
I love NOLA discussions, but they're nearly impossible to have on this site. They usually just devolve, and I admittedly participate in some trolling in them after a certain point.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:06 pm to cas4t)
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But to argue that fresh food is a societal meme that shifts over time is wrong. The closer something comes to being spoiled, the worse it tastes. That's just common sense.
"common sense" today, but not always. common sense doesn't exist. it's bull shite
again. preserved foods were once seen as opulent and valued higher in society, and were perceived as being better than fresh food
fresh food was for poor people who couldn't afford the higher class of (preserved) food
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Can you provide another example of some tangible food beside baby food?
what do you mean?
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Athanatos
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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i just asked for a definition
Did they give you a workable definition or just a vague list of factors?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:07 pm to ProjectP2294)
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So you prefer to wait for something complete unreasonable to happen while you bitch about people being biased.
i'd prefer we eliminate the bull shite before spouting it, yes
again...i want more objective thinking that is not emotional or biased
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what's it like not being able to enjoy anything ever?
i enjoy tons of stuff. i made some delicious pork chops today and i'm going to watch some homeland later
and i'm going to read a book on marketing and psychological effects on the market later
why do you think an objective reality where i don't lie to myself means i can't enjoy things?
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cas4t
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| re: Is there a city that gets more love than New Orleans? (Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:07 pm to SlowFlowPro)
So all in all, you are sick of the people of Louisiana attacking others for talking down on NOLA. And you're tired of Louisiana folk on NOLA'a food dick. So you're biased. Just as biased as the people from Louisiana doing the attacking.
Then when others mention that NOLA is nationally known as a tier 1 city for food, not just people on this board, you throw out "perception."
Is this where we stand?
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