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That's interesting. Why is he not white if he's half white?



Not realy it is the social convention of our culture.


I assumed you live in the US, I don't know any people white or negro tha consider a Mulatto to be white. In your neighborhood do the 100% Blacks consider a mixed race individual to be a White? Or Asian if the case may be?






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the entire problem is just the perpetuation of the by blacks?



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I haven't seen any demographic on the voting patterns of Asians and Rich Blacks.



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Asian-Americans reportedly voted for Obama at a higher overall percentage than Latinos.


As far as the specific breakdown by socioeconomic class and race together, I couldn't really find the data after a quick google search. So in light of that, we can limit this discussion to the data that is easily available.

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Re Jews... my theory has always been their minority status.

Yea, agreed. Thats kind of my point.

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The Dems are seen as the party protecting minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Or the GOP is seen as the party that isn't fond of diversity (I see that brought up as something that is negative/overrated relatively often on this board) or the party that doesn't truly embrace minority groups for whatever reason. Not saying this is totally true and I am sure most Republicans aren't this way, but that perception definitely exists






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trackfan
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On the other hand, it's much easier to imagine Michelle Obama having this sort of prejudice due to the typical upbringing that she had.
Because she is Black? Just like her husband?

No, because of her upbringing in a lower-middle-class Black family on the south side of Chicago which was totally different than Barack's upbringing in a White middle-classed family in Hawaii.
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I don't understand your point. What indoctrination did Michelle suffer from different than any other Black?

You've said in the past that you believe that mental makeup and character is due almost exclusively to genetics. I disagree with this viewpoint, I believe that environment contributes significantly to making us the people that we are.
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I know a couple of blacks adopted by white fanmilies and they are Black (IMHO) Black by orientation even though raised white, because society sees them as Black.

It's normal for Blacks to see themselves as Black regardless of how they were raised for the reason you stated - society sees them that way. But what I'm saying is that environment affects others things like speech and vocabulary, work ethic, value system, moral responsibility, etc.






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So basically, your position is that the affects of slavery & racism are gone today, & the entire problem is just the perpetuation of the by blacks?

my position is that racism is basically as eliminated as it can be today, the effects aren't really felt, and certain people continuously expand the concept of "Racism" to remain relevant, maintain power, and to maintain monetary gains






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let me just add this greatness from that article:

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Black folks currently have no equivalent to Lindsay Lohan or Honey Boo Boo.


2 points down:

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As much as we all loved Antoine Dodson's Bed Intruder song which currently has over 110 million views on Youtube and Sweet Brown's Ain't Nobody Got Time for That (Autotune Remix) which currently has over 19 million views, it STILL doesn't change the fact that we're all sorta having a laugh at the expense of people who had just experienced a serious tragedy.


it's like she doesn't even know why people give a frick about lohan or honey boo boo

let's not forget this part:

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Don't mention Shawty Lo's television special. At the beginning of the year, rapper Shawty Lo, who brought us musical masterpieces such as "Laffy Taffy" and "Betcha Can't Do It Like Me" was given his own tv special. Mister Lo wanted to use television as a platform to convey the struggles of parenting in the 21st century in a program titled "All My Babies' Mamas." Seven of Shawty Lo's 10 babies' mommas (with whom he has 11 children) were slotted to appear on the show. Since the program recently got canceled due to the insane amounts of protest (and we're no longer forced to acknowledge the fact that 11 different women thought it was a good idea to breed with Shawty Lo,) let's just pretend it never happened. Ok? Good.


no comparison b/w shawty lo and honey boo boo. NONE

another funny one:

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Don't bring up people who "went Black and then went back." I'm sure Heidi Klum didn't choose her new boo out of an overwhelming desire to go back from Black.


Heidi Klum going for Seal because he had a big dick doesn't help with stereotypes








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WildTchoupitoulas
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it is the social convention of our culture.

Exactly.

Now you're putting your finger on the button.

In 'our culture', white is the standard, and one wonders why black people have a hard time 'fitting in'?

Duh.






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In 'our culture', white is the standard, and one wonders why black people have a hard time 'fitting in'?

So, how come Asians fit in? They are physically as identifiable as blacks.






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In 'our culture', white is the standard, and one wonders why black people have a hard time 'fitting in'?

i mean let's call successful culture "white" culture. what is so hard about doing that?

we're talking about simple things, like valuing education, understanding the risk of our behaviors, avoiding illegal activity, etc

this has nothing to do with race, really. plenty of white trash fail at those 3 things. they're not exactly accepted in "white" culture, the same as blacks, latinos, asians, etc who fail at those are ostracized

what's so wrong about valuing a better culture?






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German Shepard
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LINK

What do you think of this guy's point of view?






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Vegas Bengal
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my position is that racism is basically as eliminated as it can be today, the effects aren't really felt, and certain people continuously expand the concept of "Racism" to remain relevant, maintain power, and to maintain monetary gains


If you really believe this you are either
1. Extremely naive and live in a bubble.
2. Lying to yourself.






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If you really believe this you are either
1. Extremely naive and live in a bubble.
2. Lying to yourself.

why?

"racism" will never die. even if we are all the same race, we'll create a new concept of self/group and celebrate that group and hate those not in the group. this is just part of humanity, for better or worse, and there are MANY other group identifications outside of race

we're the least racist country on earth. it's amazing. we should celebrate that






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trackfan
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So, how come Asians fit in? They are physically as identifiable as blacks.

Japanese-Americans would beg to differ. Remember, in WWII, they were put in conecntration camps but not German-Americans and Italian-Americans.






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Remember, in WWII,

recent events

you ignored the point for an irrelevant "gotcha"

why do asians have less difficulty assimilating into "white" culture (i'm using the same term from earlier)






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Zach
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Japanese-Americans would beg to differ. Remember, in WWII, they were put in conecntration camps but not German-Americans and Italian-Americans.

No, they were not put in conecntration camps (whatever that is). They were interred. We couldda lost the war. The Japs had plans to bomb the west coast.
Re: German-Americans. Some were caught as spies and shot.
Re: Italian-Americans. They were too lazy to fight






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"racism" will never die. even if we are all the same race, we'll create a new concept of self/group and celebrate that group and hate those not in the group. this is just part of humanity, for better or worse, and there are MANY other group identifications outside of race


I look at racism like "homophobia" (for lack of a better word although I agree it's a poor choice of a word). The younger generations are far more accepting of gays and other races and as time passes future generations will be as well.

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we're the least racist country on earth. it's amazing. we should celebrate that

I agree 100%. But that doesn't mean we can't and won't improve.

And FWIW I think Obama's way (and Colin Powell and Condi Rice) of discussing it is far more productive than in your face Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.






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trackfan
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"racism" will never die. even if we are all the same race, we'll create a new concept of self/group and celebrate that group and hate those not in the group. this is just part of humanity, for better or worse, and there are MANY other group identifications outside of race

This true. Bigotry based on skin color may be unique to the U.S., South AFrica and a few other places, but all over the world, man has proven himself to be very creative when it comes to inventing ways to hate one another for equallyinsidious reasons (eg. Northern Ireland, Mideast, Sri Lanka, Rwanda, Sudan, Chechnya, Kashmir, Basque Country, etc.). To the oppressed, it makes no difference whether you oppress them for their skin color, religion, language, culture or any other superficial reason.
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we're the least racist country on earth.

Wrong. That title probably goes to one of the Scandanavian nations Sweden, Norway or Finland. As matter a matter of fact, they are very few countries in the world whose people attach as much significance to skin color as Americans do, though we're probably the most religiously tolerant people in the world.






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Vegas Bengal
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[quote]No, they were not put in conecntration camps (whatever that is). Right. They were interred.

They were free to go wherever they wished, as long as that was concentrated in the camp in which they were interred.






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I look at racism like "homophobia" (for lack of a better word although I agree it's a poor choice of a word). The younger generations are far more accepting of gays and other races and as time passes future generations will be as well.

likely, but there will be some clash with the shitty culture of a lot of homosexuals. they're going to be demanded to fit into "white" culture, too. they're going to be asked to ostracize those in their group who promote a shitty culture

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But that doesn't mean we can't and won't improve.

institutional racism is all but dead. if it exists, it's sporadic and isolated to small areas

there just isn't more that we can do. we need to direct our efforts to areas that need much more help

namely, we need to devote more resources to white and black trash to promote good culture and disincentivize bad culture. if you want to talk about a defeatist attitude, it's sickening to me that people love to act like we can't do anything to combat shitty culture, and that we should celebrate shitty culture. frick that



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Zach
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They were free to go wherever they wished, as long as that was concentrated in the camp in which they were interred.

Don't get stupid on me. You know what 'Concentration Camp' means.
Is your local jail a Concentration Camp? Hmmmm? Because the local jail is FAR WORSE than anything the Japanese experienced.






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