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LaBornNRaised  New Orleans Saints Fan The Datty's are Fixed! Member since Feb 2011 7677 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:40 pm to Alahunter)
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No such place as Palestine
This is emphatically true. The propaganda portrayed here by the Arabs is laughable considering they are just as guilty in all of this. Also for anyone who has actually studied this like I have, THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE AS PALESTINE
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tigeraddict  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2007 4435 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:47 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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the U.N.
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MrCarton  Alabama Fan Nashville Member since Dec 2009 1643 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:03 pm to Ace Midnight)
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The IDF is going to be a handful, I can tell you that.
If you send a bunch of rock throwing adolescents, the IDF will crush them. Otherwise they are pretty humdrum.
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MrCarton  Alabama Fan Nashville Member since Dec 2009 1643 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:04 pm to LaBornNRaised)
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THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE AS PALESTINE
Wait, what? Joking or serious?
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1897: First Zionist Congress: the Basel program sets out the goals of the Zionist movement: "Zionism aims at establishing for the Jewish people a publicly and legally assured home in Palestine"
From wiki. The BS is gonna be thick in this one...
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kclsufan  New Orleans Saints Fan Show Me Member since Jun 2008 10046 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:24 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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CarrolltonTiger

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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44012 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:25 pm to Radiojones)
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It was the Israeli government forcing some of the settlers out of their homes. I
Yes, Israel has removed some settlers, some in Gaza some elsewhere. The US pays Israel about 250K for every illegal settler they remove, so they remove 500, (Israel gets 125 million for supposed resettlement) they build homes for 5000 in another settlement area. The resettlement of the 8,000 Israelis from Gaza cost the US $2.2 billion. Quite the scam on the US tax payers. But Jesus supposedly approves.
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shinerfan  LSU Fan Duckworld(Earth-616) Member since Sep 2009 4751 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:31 pm to LaBornNRaised)
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Also for anyone who has actually studied this like I have, THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE AS PALESTINE
I hope this is due to a concussion or something and its not some sort of degenerative condition.
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MrCarton  Alabama Fan Nashville Member since Dec 2009 1643 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:34 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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The resettlement of the 8,000 Israelis from Gaza cost the US $2.2 billion.
If we can save just ONE Jew...a couple of billion dollars... it will be worth it.
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MrCarton  Alabama Fan Nashville Member since Dec 2009 1643 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:36 pm to shinerfan)
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I hope this is due to a concussion or something and its not some sort of degenerative condition
Unfortunately the prognosis is poor. I don't hang my hat on miracles, but in this case it is all we have.
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wmr  Arkansas Fan North of Dickson, South of Herman's Member since Mar 2009 14985 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:27 am to MrCarton)
Israel needs to go away. You folks watch and believe way too much John Hagee nonsense. Essentially, their religion is their race. Tribe. The powerful Israeli lobby (aka most American "Jews") ensure that trillions of your tax dollars will continue to be spent protecting a tiny, belligerent nation of 10 million people, most of whom hate Christianity. Its quite a racket. Notice that American leftist Jews like Bill Maher openly advocate atheism for all of us, yet Maher is vehemently pro-Israel. In fact, its basically the only thing he stands for, when pressed. You've been lied to if you think Judaism and Christianity are any more similar than Christianity and Islam.
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Nuts4LSU  LSU Fan Washington, DC Member since Oct 2003 17615 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:37 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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CarrolltonTiger
Seriously, CT, did a Jewish person kill your whole family or something? I can honestly say I've never encountered, online or IRL, as a big a Jew-hater as you.
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olgoi khorkhoi Bucknell Fan priapism survivor Member since May 2011 1918 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:13 am to CarrolltonTiger)
While we are withdrawing, pack your things and get off Navajo land. Hypocrite.
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JEAUXBLEAUX  LSU Fan Bayonne, NJ Member since May 2006 38520 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 4:39 am to olgoi khorkhoi)
Who is going to guarantee Israel safety and security after leaving Judea and Samaria? Say Israel doe this. Will the next demand be get out of tel Aviv and Yerushalyim? When will it end? They can have the West Bank in return for an ironclad guarantee that no more rocket attacks and that Israelis can live as free people in a secure homeland. Let the West Bank and Gaza be a Palestinian nation, fine. But let it be said first no rocket attacks and let everyone recognize Israel's right to exist. That will be the day. As long as the covenants of certain organizations deny Israel's right to exist, there can be no solution. and Israel needs to recognize the Palestinian's rights as well.
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Poodlebrain  LSU Fan Way Right of Rex Member since Jan 2004 12685 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 4:42 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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Israel must, in compliance with article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, cease all settlement activities without preconditions. It must immediately initiate a process of withdrawal of all settlers from the OPT (occupied Palestinian territories).
The only problem I have is that there is no such thing as occupied Palestinian territories. Under international law, which we all hold in such high regard, the territory Israel occupied was Jordanian, and the Jordanian's renounced all rights to the territory when they signed the peace treaty with Israel. Does the international community just disregard the acts of Jordan in this matter? It can't ignore the fact that Jordan fought a war in 1967 with Israel, or that the territory was within the internationally recognized borders of Jordan at the start of that war. What of the settlements established from 1967 until Jordan signed the peace treaty? Surely, they should have different legal status than any established after.
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Mike da Tigah Ft. New Richmond Member since Feb 2005 36764 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:16 am to CarrolltonTiger)
Gather round kids. Let me tell ya story bout a group called the UN and the so called Palestinians and their respective human rights high grounds.
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loogaroo  LSU Fan between Hayes and Bell City Member since Dec 2005 1319 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:09 am to Mike da Tigah)
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Gather round kids. Let me tell ya story bout a group called the UN and the so called Palestinians and their respective human rights high grounds.
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4926 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:21 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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The US pays Israel about 250K for every undocumented settler they remove
fify
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SammyTiger  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Feb 2009 4687 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:54 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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You don't really think Central America is occupied by Spain do you? Do you think the Central American countries are not independent? Are you really trying to defend that pathetic analogy?
The people who pushed out the Natives are still there. If the West bank settlements broke off form ISrael and formed their own country, would you consider the wet bank unoccupied?
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 7928 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/2/13 at 5:32 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
Sounds like the UN is saying: Alle Juden Raus !
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blueboy  LSU Fan between here and there Member since Apr 2006 14365 posts

| re: Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank (Posted on 2/2/13 at 5:52 pm to RollTide1987)
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The Israelis won that land in a war they DID NOT start. And yet it's somehow under occupation? Wars have consequences. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing.
you really believe that stupid shit, don't you? 
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