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WildTchoupitoulas
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With all do respect sir you are an idiot.

You have no respect for me, as you showed with your "While you were having fun, I was working" bull shite. Where the frick did that even come from?

The problem with your helping those who want to help themselves garbage is that you judge whether they want to help themselves based on arbitrary criteria.

Hopefully you'll grow up.






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When wealth is too concentrated in too few people at the top,


Wealth IS NOT FINITE.

Just because 1 person has money, doesn't mean another does not.






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I was actually working as a professional, out in the field in Louisiana running elevation surveys in the marsh, and stream surverys including flow measurements, water quality and biological sampling


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Good for you, what do you want, a cookie?






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GeauxTigerTM
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Imagine if the now poor would have lived within their means. Where would they be?


I'm just going to toss this out there as an example...it'll probably be too much information, but so be it.

I have a handicapped sister that lives with me and my family She'll be 53 in a few weeks. She was injured in an automobile accident in May of 1980 and is a quadriplegic. She was in college at the time...advertising and commercial art.

After the accident, she was a quadriplegic. She had movement of her arms, but not her hands. she had feeling from her upper chest and up, but nothing else. At first she was in a chair, and was able to get around. Gradually over the years, pressure sores and growing scoliosis made it impossible to stay in her chair, and she was eventually bed bound. That eventually went from alternating air pressure mattresses, to what she has now which is a Clinitron mattress which has a base that is filled with a powder that is forced to flow underneath her in a sealed mattress by tiny air spouts so that the entire things moves like it's moving water. She also went from breathing on her own, to needing to be trached, to needing to be trached and vented...so she can no longer talk to you unless you can read her lips.

She lived with my father and was on his insurance until he passed away. Because she had no income other than a social security disability income, she qualified for both medicare and medicaid. There was simply no other way to do it. She never had a shot at a career, or a family...or much of a life at all. This was the only option, and the entire thing was outside of her control.

I appreciate your concern over those that CAN work and don't siphoning money out of a system that bleeds money...but because I know this situation first hand, I also know that there are some to whom this system truly is the safety net that it was designed to be. It isn't black and white, and I hate when people assume it is.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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My IQ was bad enough to where I did something so stupid in my younger years and spent 2 1/2 years in the state Penitentiary.

That has nothing to do with your IQ. Intelligent people end up in jail/prison all the time.

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You expect me to feel sorry for those that are just smart enough to game the system? Is that what you meant?

I don't feel sorry for people I try to help, sorrow doesn't even come into it. I have, you need, I'll share, we both feel joy. What's so hard about that? And no, smart people who are just trying to game the system just exist - no matter what the system. But that doesn't mean you destroy the system. If so, we wouldn't have a banking system today.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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Wealth IS NOT FINITE.

I never said it was. But then, you have a hard time drawing valid conclusions.

Wealth may grow and grow and grow, but that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be concentrated.

Those with nothing may continue to have nothing while the wealthy grow their wealth.

Were not the wealthy of 18th century France getting wealthier while the People were getting poorer? Likewise for 19th century Russia? Or modern day Mexico?

Think, man, don't just go with the knee-jerk conservative reaction.






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Papercutninja
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Excellent post. I agree 100%.





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Papercutninja
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Ubfortunately according to Edwards constitution a governor of La. has only education and health care to cut the budgets of as everything else is a sacred cow.


I feel like this post was missed. Where else is the "evil" Jindal supposed to find the cuts? I like how liberals are the first ones to cry when cuts to education and health care are made yet they were the ones in favor of the Silver Fox and all his policies. And please save me the lesser of two evils David Duke pitch. Edwards had his support and it was those with the loudest voices today.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm just going to toss this out there as an example...it'll probably be too much information, but so be it. I have a handicapped sister that lives with me and my family She'll be 53 in a few weeks. She was injured in an automobile accident in May of 1980 and is a quadriplegic. She was in college at the time...advertising and commercial art. After the accident, she was a quadriplegic. She had movement of her arms, but not her hands. she had feeling from her upper chest and up, but nothing else. At first she was in a chair, and was able to get around. Gradually over the years, pressure sores and growing scoliosis made it impossible to stay in her chair, and she was eventually bed bound. That eventually went from alternating air pressure mattresses, to what she has now which is a Clinitron mattress which has a base that is filled with a powder that is forced to flow underneath her in a sealed mattress by tiny air spouts so that the entire things moves like it's moving water. She also went from breathing on her own, to needing to be trached, to needing to be trached and vented...so she can no longer talk to you unless you can read her lips. She lived with my father and was on his insurance until he passed away. Because she had no income other than a social security disability income, she qualified for both medicare and medicaid. There was simply no other way to do it. She never had a shot at a career, or a family...or much of a life at all. This was the only option, and the entire thing was outside of her control. I appreciate your concern over those that CAN work and don't siphoning money out of a system that bleeds money...but because I know this situation first hand, I also know that there are some to whom this system truly is the safety net that it was designed to be. It isn't black and white, and I hate when people assume it is.

Okay, that post shows up all of my efforts in this thread as trite and superficial.

I'll just bow out here. I wish your sister the best.






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When my opinion is to help others when I have the means to, and the other opinion is to be selfish, yes, my opinion is better. I'm sorry if you've bought into all that objectivism crap, but I do believe in Values and Virtue.


See, WildTchoup, you are now conflating issues. No one is trying to stop you from helping others...not even Jindal. If Jindal was trying to stop doctors from helping those treated less fairly in life, then I would completely agree with your position.

But, you are confusing your ability to help others with the amount you will get paid to help others...Why should reimbursement matter if you are providing the service because you want to help others and have the means to do so?







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GeauxTigerTM
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Okay, that post shows up all of my efforts in this thread as trite and superficial.

I'll just bow out here. I wish your sister the best.



Nah...wasn't my intention at all.

I realize with my constant religion bashing I'm known for on here I have somehow gotten the tag of being some patchouli smoking lefty. I'm not, and never have been. I'm very fiscally conservative and at their core despise many of these programs in principle alone...the whole stealing from me to give to someone else stuff. I get it...I do. And when I see people defrauding the systems I get as mad or madder than anyone. Partly because I see someone stuck in this system who absolutely needs it and who is consistently and coldly lumped into the same group as able-bodied people who could be working and potentially supporting themselves and paying for these types of things. It's EASY to become cold to the reality that there ARE really good, honest people who need these types of programs, or else...

That being said, I also understand the situation Jindal is in in regards to the LA Constitution. I'd just prefer we work on weeding out waste and fraud before we start implementing cuts...

ETA: And thanks for the kind words for my sis. What she's been able to handle over the years has been a terrible yet amazing this to watch.



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meauxjeaux2
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Okay, that post shows up all of my efforts in this thread as trite and superficial.

I'll just bow out here. I wish your sister the best.

I'm sure there's nobody here that would tell this poster otherwise out of decency towards him and also stay off admins radar but truthfully,in a non moderated forum,there would be some who would tell him the truth,not what he wanted to hear regarding his sister and her condition.
I'll just leave it at that out of respect for him.






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lsusaintsfan4life
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Geaux

Your sisters situation is exactly why I argue for right and wrong. I believe that we should help the elderly, the young, and those that are truly disabled. I would do whatever I can to help you and your family care for your sister.

The problem that I have is when able bodied men and woman are on disability. They are "stealing" the help that should be for your sister. It is despicable. The fact that many on here defend it is ludicrous. There is only so much money out there to help and I have seen 19 yo men on disability for no good reason. The time for change is now.






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GeauxTigerTM
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I'm sure there's nobody here that would tell this poster otherwise out of decency towards him and also stay off admins radar but truthfully,in a non moderated forum,there would be some who would tell him the truth,not what he wanted to hear regarding his sister and her condition.
I'll just leave it at that out of respect for him.


I'm all ears since you clearly have something to get off your chest.



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GeauxTigerTM
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Your sisters situation is exactly why I argue for right and wrong. I believe that we should help the elderly, the young, and those that are truly disabled. I would do whatever I can to help you and your family care for your sister.

The problem that I have is when able bodied men and woman are on disability. They are "stealing" the help that should be for your sister. It is despicable. The fact that many on here defend it is ludicrous. There is only so much money out there to help and I have seen 19 yo men on disability for no good reason. The time for change is now.


I absolutely agree with this, and it's why I think that the desire to root out waste and fraud in ALL government spending ought to be priority #1 before we consider making cuts. Not because budgets should not be reduced...they should. But because before you can honestly cut anything, it seems to sanest thing to do would be to get rid of as much corruption and gaming of the system as you can. Then, make honest cuts if they are still needed.

In my sister's situation, we've never run across a doctor since she's been on medicaid/care that has been any different towards her than those who treated her when she was still on my father's insurance...and I think that's great and speaks to your point. Most, in fact, have argued just as we have that their hands tend to be tied by idiotic regulations put forth by bureaucrats that have no idea about patient care.






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lsusaintsfan4life
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You wish hardship on me? What a model citizen you are. You have no idea of the struggles that I have been through in my life.

Wild, I am a physician and a very good one. I feel that my greatest attribute is that I have struggled along the way and understand the hardships that many of my fellow Americans have gone through. I do anything and everything that I can to help my fellow man. Let me be very clear. I do not care about your future and your well being if you don't care yourself.

While you defend those that take from the system, I defend people in Geauxs family situation. The truly needy and disabled. And yes, I am the judge and jury in my decisions. I don't need you to validate my decisions.






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"If a person makes 20 k a year...and has a family of four..."

Did the government force this person to have 4 children? If you cannot support yourself, why would you have a child, let alone 4? This is why my wife and I only have 1 child. Sure we would like to have 3 or 4, but it is not fiscally nor morally the right decision.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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You wish hardship on me? What a model citizen you are. You have no idea of the struggles that I have been through in my life.

Hypocrit. You were the one starting with the presumptions about how you worked while I had "fun". My point was that it's YOU who have no idea what hardships ANYONE has gone through to make judgements about how they are caring for themselves or not.
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I defend people in Geauxs family situation

You've changed your tune.

These were the first words you wrote on the topic:
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Its not my problem.

Be responsible for self and pay for your own health care. Stopped seeing medicaid 3 years ago. I lost a lot of great patients but a lot of stress went away...

Own them and tell the young woman to whom Geaux referred to take of herself. After all, it's not your problem, right?






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lsusaintsfan4life
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Run away Wild run away.

I have gone back and read your BS posts. You have made inflammatory posts against me with no basis. Your statements above are not only completely false but condescending and arrogant.

I suggest that you stay out of my world (medicine) where you clearly have no basis for your comments. When your family member comes in and is in serious need. I will be there. No matter if it is 6 PM on Friday during my family time or at 2 AM when I am awoken with a full day tomorrow. Do I expect you to feel sorry for me? No sir. But I would appreciate respect as I do this for thousands of families. Why? Its because I care.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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Dude, first you came out with the tough talk:
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Its not my problem.
Be responsible for self and pay for your own health care. Stopped seeing medicaid 3 years ago. I lost a lot of great patients but a lot of stress went away...

And then YOU came out with the condescending and arrogant statement of:
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While you were out having fun I worked 3 part time jobs and made straight A's. I paid for my pwn school. We both had opportunities and I chose to accept them and build upon them.

Come ON, what the frick is THAT shit? I mean I want you to explain that statement.
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When your family member comes in and is in serious need. I will be there.

Bull shite. You won't be seeing people in the position of Geaux's sister anymore, will you? Because you dropped your medicaid patients to ease the stress in your life - AS PER YOUR OWN WORDS IN THIS VERY THREAD. Are you going to own those words or disavow them now?
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But I would appreciate respect

If you had started from the position of respect, instead of condescension and arrogance, you might have earned it.

"I will be there [unless, of course, you're on Medicaid]"

Maybe next time you won't start off your comments with such bravado.






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