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dante  LSU Fan Kingwood, TX Member since Mar 2006 2768 posts

| What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:12 pm)
Obama has proven that he has no interest in creating a better business environment for companies to grow and expand. He signed into law a health care plan that is abysmal at best. He wants to give 11+ million illegals government benefits while we continue to run a 1 trillion dollar deficit. I know congress is just as responsible for the current status, but Obama had the ability to pass ANYTHING he wanted during the first 2 years while the Dems controlled both the house and senate. They chose to pass health care but did not produce a budget. My question is this.....if we continue down the same path for the next 4 years what will America look like? I do not have any faith in the federal government fixing any of the problems we currently face. I don't think we will have riots but I do think because of Obamacare unemployment will reach 10+%. The entitlement programs will continue to expand along with the deficit. The dollar will continue to devalue and inflation will reach double digits.
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JohnnyKilroy  North Carolina Fan Member since Oct 2012 5560 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:13 pm to dante)
Fresh topic
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Grizzly  Southern Cal Fan Member since Oct 2012 1776 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:22 pm to dante)
A mess! /thread
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DeltaDoc  LSU Fan The Delta Member since Jan 2008 6344 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:25 pm to dante)
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My question is this.....if we continue down the same path for the next 4 years what will America look like?
Not too different than it looks right now. I think unemployment at or around 8% is the new floor for unemployment. Entitlements will still be at all-time highs. I think racial tensions will be at or worse than they are right now. Wall Street types will still have high contacts with Obama and his cabinet and will still be making billions bending and breaking the rules. The military will be similar to what is was when Clinton left office. Education will still be in the shitter. Healthcare is where we will see the real changes. Even at this late date hospital administrations and physicians are not really sure what to expect out of Obamacare being fully implemented. They know it will cause harm but it is hard to truly grasp just how harmful it will be across the board from reimbursement to actual care given. We are about to give citizenship to over 11 Million new people...I am sure the costs associate with that will have an adverse effect and many unintended consequences (as well as the intended consequence of permanent executive power for the democrat party). All in all, things will be similar to what we see now in many respects (assuming we don't get into another war).
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 14161 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:33 pm to dante)
Not too much different then right now. But in the decade following it will get real ugly, real fast.
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shuke33  Penn State Fan Under The Bridge Member since Nov 2010 8881 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:34 pm to dante)
Status Quo from when GWB left office
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bayoudude  LSU Fan Houma Member since Dec 2007 15716 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:39 pm to dante)
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My question is this.....if we continue down the same path for the next 4 years what will America look like?

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udtiger  LSU Fan Louisiana Member since Nov 2006 18350 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:40 pm to dante)
Ever see a smouldering building after a major fire?
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dante  LSU Fan Kingwood, TX Member since Mar 2006 2768 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:43 pm to shuke33)
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Status Quo from when GWB left office
What happened to Hope and Change? "cut the deficit in half" After 4 years it is still Bush's fault even though the Dems had total control for his first 2 years?
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joeytiger  LSU Fan Denham Springs Member since Jul 2012 1499 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:46 pm to udtiger)
Probably not much worse than it is now. The years following will be really, really bad and a lot of people will suffer. However; if I am proven wrong, and unemployment is under 5%, gas is around 2.00 per gallon and entitlement spending returns to Clinton era, then I will vote Democrat for the rest of my life. That is how confindent I am that it will never happen.
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AngryBeavers  LSU Fan Member since Jun 2012 1714 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:50 pm to dante)
I think it will be seen as a lost decade for the United States in terms of economic growth and prosperity. You can really feel that in this country today. There isn't a lot of optimism and hope for a better future like there was in the past.
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4471 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:59 pm to AngryBeavers)
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There isn't a lot of optimism and hope for a better future like there was in the past.
I see this as well. There is a malaise over this country that I have not felt since the 70s.
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 11072 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:05 pm to dante)
I would say roughly this shape: Throw in some shapes up between Canada and Russia and in the middle of the ocean...
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constant cough  New Orleans Saints Fan Lafayette Member since Jun 2007 28739 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:06 pm to dante)
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What shape will America be in after Obama's second term?
Think Detroit.
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Patrick_Bateman  USA Fan Member since Jan 2012 5249 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:09 pm to dante)
Worse than it is now.
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AngryBeavers  LSU Fan Member since Jun 2012 1714 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:12 pm to Radiojones)
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There is a malaise over this country that I have not felt since the 70s.
I was not around in the 70's but my dad says it was not fun waiting in long lines for gas.
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Layabout  UNO Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jul 2011 4578 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:12 pm to Radiojones)
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There is a malaise over this country that I have not felt since the 70s.
I felt it for eight years beginning in 2000. 
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doubleb  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Aug 2006 3003 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
I agree, instead of 57 states, we will only have 50 left. However, about a dozen of those will be bankrupt.
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4471 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:25 pm to Layabout)
I'm not going to defend Bush as I think he was a poor president as well but at least there was some economic growth during his presidency.
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4471 posts

| re: What shape will America be in after Obama's second term? (Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:28 pm to AngryBeavers)
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it was not fun waiting in long lines for gas.
They weren't. I have memories of it being 100 degrees outside and waiting for hours to get gas. The good thing was that the oil industry in Louisiana was booming and there were jobs galore.
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