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joshnorris14 
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:13 am to Revelator)
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Are you a citizen?
Unfortunately.
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Revelator
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:15 am to joshnorris14)
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Unfortunately
If you are so unhappy with your country perhaps Canada or Mexico would have you?
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TrueTiger 
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:16 am to joshnorris14)
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Are you a citizen?
Unfortunately.
Now come on.
Granted there is plenty of crap going on in the US but as bad as it is, where else is better?
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:17 am to Revelator)
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If you are so unhappy with your country perhaps Canada or Mexico would have you?
Well I would love to answer your question if you answer mine. Is it my property?
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:18 am to TrueTiger)
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Granted there is plenty of crap going on in the US but as bad as it is, where else is better?
If there is anywhere better it is probably marginal. But, that's irrelevant to my distaste.
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TrueTiger
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:21 am to joshnorris14)
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If there is anywhere better it is probably marginal.
I hear some good things about the Czech Republic but I don't have any detail. Do you know anything about it?
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:24 am to TrueTiger)
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Do you know anything about it?
I'm ignorant of the current state of the Czech Republic. 
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Tim
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:26 am to joshnorris14)
Honestly, there is no such thing as private property in this country. Skip your property tax payments and find out how long you get to keep it...
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TrueTiger
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:26 am to joshnorris14)
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I'm ignorant of the current state of the Czech Republic.
That's OK.
Ignorant =/= stupid. I'm asking too. 
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:29 am to Tim)
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Honestly, there is no such thing as private property in this country. Skip your property tax payments and find out how long you get to keep it...
That's simply not true. We all own ourselves. That basic property is fundamental and inescapable. It can be infringed upon. And that's what you're referring too.
It's the same for other property. People can exert force onto you and harm your property, but that doesn't negate its existence.
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Aristo
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:30 am to TrueTiger)
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TrueTiger
What liquor is that pic of? I swear I just saw that on a website when I was looking for spirits.
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:31 am to TrueTiger)
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That's OK.
Ignorant =/= stupid. I'm asking too.
Well to be more clear to your original question, I'm not looking at what else does exist, but what could exist. I reject the initiation of force, and because of that I feel unfortunate for living in a situation where force is initiated on me (Or threatened).
Now that can be extended a whole lot more. I dislike scarcity obviously, but my feelings of misfortune are relative so I'm much less concerned about escaping scarcity (Which is an impossibility) and escaping the initiation of force (a very slight possibility).
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matthew25 
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:32 am to joshnorris14)
My AR-15 says it's my land. And not your land.
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TrueTiger
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:32 am to Tim)
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Skip your property tax payments and find out how long you get to keep it...
This. As long as property taxes exist. We only rent.
That said, if we didn't pay the government to assist in holding a piece of ground through property records, police protection, state sanctioned recognition of ownership, then we would bear all of those costs individually.
You would have to pay a bunch of hired guns to hold the ground against those who would kill you to occupy it.
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:32 am to Aristo)
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What liquor is that pic of?
Crystal Head Vodka man!
Catfish taught me something useful.
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:33 am to matthew25)
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My AR-15 says it's my land. And not your land.
There's no need for the aggression, I'm not doubting the ownership of your land.
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Tim
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:34 am to joshnorris14)
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People can exert force onto you and harm your property
you can call it yours, you can etch your name on it, you can have your mail sent to that address, you can protect yourself in your "castle", however, skip a tax payment and you will lose what you think is yours...not only that, let it be a business or farm, the gov't will force your family to sell it when you die if you weren't liquid enough to pay inheritance taxes...private property is a myth, it only applies in regard to protecting yourself
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TrueTiger
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:34 am to Aristo)
That is Crystal Head vodka. Dan Aykroyd's brand. He was just in NOLA yesterday signing bottles.
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joshnorris14
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:35 am to Tim)
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Tim
Nothing you are saying contradicts my point. It's your property, they are simply stealing it.
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Tim
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| re: The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:38 am to joshnorris14)
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they are simply stealing it
how is immigration not stealing?
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