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lsu480 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 7:46 pm to beaverfever)
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Kobe Bryant will end up with better all around numbers than mj.
We will see
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Tiger in Texas 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:03 pm to Powerman)
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Jerry Rice played about 3 or 4 years too many IMO He compiled stats by staying in the league too long
Doesn't matter...Rice could have retired 3 or 4 years earlier, and there would still be no better. Always a threat to score, and being a receiver, that was pretty incredible... 
Moss had more talent, but that means nothing- Rice showed the ability every play, every game & every season...Moss was always hit or miss... 
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SPEEDY 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:19 pm to Tiger in NY)
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Rice also played in vastly superior offenses.
Oh really? With the exception of Moss' two seasons with the Raiders, they played on very similar offenses, numbers wise
To illustrate my point, just compare them during their first 12 years in the league.
**I stopped at 12 because Moss played for 3 different teams in his 13th season.
Here are the total offensive yards for each of the offenses they played on each season
Moss
1998: 6,624 yards
1999: 5,793 yards
2000: 5,961 yards
2001: 5,185 yards
2002: 6,192 yards
2003: 6,294 yards
2004: 6,339 yards
2005: 4,951 yards
2006: 3,939 yards
2007: 6,580 yards
2008: 5,847 yards
2009: 6,347 yards
Average: 5,838 yards
Take out those two Raider years, and the offenses he played on averaged 6,116 yards per season
Rice
1985: 5,920 yards
1986: 6,082 yards
1987: 5,987 yards
1988: 5,900 yards
1989: 6,268 yards
1990: 5,895 yards
1991: 5,858 yards
1992: 6,195 yards
1993: 6,435 yards
1994: 6,060 yards
1995: 6,087 yards
1996: 5,506 yards
Average: 6,016 yards
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DBeaux225 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:28 pm to Chad504boy)
He's the greatest deep threat wr of all time.
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Sl4m 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:38 pm to DBeaux225)
I'd like to see comparison numbers on long TD catches.
I bet Jerry Rice wins that head to head too.
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Roaad
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 9:46 pm to Chad504boy)
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Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR
He is
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trackfan
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:28 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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There is nothing Moss brings to the table that Rice did not. Rice unlike Moss however, did not take plays off and was a great down field blocker.
Amen! Rice was by far the more complete reciever.
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tigerbait3488
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:39 pm to trackfan)
Anyone agreeing with Moss has no idea what the frick they are talking about. Rice is clearly the greatest, there is no debate, end of story. Its comical this idiot said this and its more comical that some of yall agree with him.
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Poodlebrain
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:48 pm to Chad504boy)
Randy Moss must have been asked "Are you still getting high?" when he answered he is the GOAT. Because that is the only way his answer makes any sense. Jerry Rice is the GOAT at any offensive position, and it isn't even close. Compare his numbers to numbers to his contemporaries, guys playing with the same rules and referees interpreting the rules, and he was without peer. His single season records are being eclipsed, but his average seasons were better than anyone else, and I'd bet the standard deviation per season was lower than anyone else despite his longevcity.
As for the argument that Rice played with better QB's, how come every time great QB's get discussed I hear people claim Montana and Young were only so good because they had Jerry Rice to throw to? Rice continued to put up superior numbers after he stopped playing with Montana and Young despite being the number 2 target behind Terrell Owens and Tim Brown. And the one season Rice was out with an injury the 49ers finished 12th in the league in offensive yards. The season prior they finished 6th and the season after they finished 1st.
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TulaneTigerFan 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:51 pm to beaverfever)
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Kobe Bryant will end up with better all around numbers than mj.
No, he won't.
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wildtigercat93
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:54 pm to Poodlebrain)
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Randy Moss must have been asked "Are you still getting high?" when he answered he is the GOAT
That probably sounded a lot better in your head
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REG861 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:07 pm to lsu480)
I'm assuming anyone who thinks Moss is the GOAT clearly is not old enough to have seen Jerry Rice play. Moss is/was more talented, but Rice has dwarfed him in every way in terms of actually demonstrating it on the field
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SPEEDY
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 9:40 am to SPEEDY)
Career playoff numbers:
.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss......52.......936........18.0.....10
Rice......151....2,245........14.9.....22
Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl
REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
..11.......215.........19.6......1
....7.......148.........21.1......3
..10.......149.........14.9......3
....5.........77.........15.4......1
Randy Moss in the Super Bowl
REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
....5.........62.........12.4......1
So Jerry Rice's worst Super Bowl performance, as a 40 year old receiver, was better than Moss' sole Super Bowl appearance. And Moss' Super Bowl came in the same year he caught almost 100 passes, 1,500 yards and 23 TDs. In fact, just look at what Moss did during that entire playoff run that year. He didn't do shite. Caught 7 total passes for less than 100 yards in 3 games. Dude disappeared
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9Fiddy 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:13 am to Chad504boy)
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To which @JerryRice just responded, "Put my numbers up against his numbers."
Moss stats per year with Minnesota and New England (12 years)
77 receptions
1206 yards
12 TDs
Rice stats per year with San Francisco, not counting the year he only played 2 games. (15 years)
83 receptions
1278 yards
12 TDs
It's close, but the edge goes to Rice IMO.
Looking at what SPEEDY posted...
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.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss......52.......936........18.0.....10
Rice......151....2,245........14.9.....22
Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl
REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
..11.......215.........19.6......1
....7.......148.........21.1......3
..10.......149.........14.9......3
....5.........77.........15.4......1
Randy Moss in the Super Bowl
REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
....5.........62.........12.4......1
Now the gap is much wider.
This post was edited on 1/30 at 10:15 am
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Antiheroaz 
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:27 pm to 9Fiddy)
Jerry Rice coming on Cowterd @ ESPN radio at bottom of the hour.
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sportsaddit68
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:41 pm to Antiheroaz)
I would go as far as saying Not only is rice GOAT, Herman Moore in his prime, as well as Tim Brown, and Chris Carter would be ranked over randy moss. Yes, Moss was great... but he should of shut his whore mouth and played football every down instead of quitting. Teams knew if you knocked the hell out of Moss early, he wouldn't be a threat later. Even people like Champ Bailey and Revis came out and said that one year.
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Antiheroaz
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:45 pm to sportsaddit68)
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Herman Moore
the frick?
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sportsaddit68
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:31 pm to Antiheroaz)
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sportsaddit68
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:34 pm to sportsaddit68)
Herman Moore had that athletic grace and was a real threat for the deep pass. He was a great wide reciever. People tend to forget him due to Barry Sanders, but Moore did everything without a good QB as well. Something people tried to say hurt Moss.
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ragincajun03 
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Member since Nov 2007
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| re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR (Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:50 pm to Antiheroaz)
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Dude had 5 TD's in a game. 1981
Was 1991 against ATL. But I agree with you.
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