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Rittdog
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| Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:24 pm)
Troy starring Brad Pitt and Eric Bana came on TV the other day. I remembered back to when this movie was first coming out...People thought it was going to be the next Gladiator (In terms of being a badass great movie that may even win Best Picture)
Instead, it turned out to be "meh"
I remember people saying it needed "Ridley Scott's touch"
Idk. What all went wrong with this movie? I know Orlando Bloom was a total fail in the movie. But it had a great cast and the source material is great as well.
Why was it so..."meh"
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CottonWasKing 
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:25 pm to Rittdog)
I've always enjoyed Troy 
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tigerfan88
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:27 pm to CottonWasKing)
I love Troy, very entertaining movie. It just didn't have near the backstory and plot to really be critically acclaimed like Gladiator did
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:28 pm to CottonWasKing)
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I've always enjoyed Troy
Me 2. It's not Citizen Kane or even quite Gladiator but I thought it achieved what it went after. It didn't have the heart to be a great movie, but it's a decent one.
This post was edited on 1/27 at 1:33 pm
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Celery 
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:35 pm to Rittdog)
I've never been a fan of Troy. I don't know why. Maybe because Troy leans toward fantasy with Gladiator being more believable.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:36 pm to Rittdog)
I loved Troy.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:36 pm to tigerfan88)
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It just didn't have near the backstory and plot to really be critically acclaimed like Gladiator did
:facepalm:
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:38 pm to Rittdog)
Both are bad movies, but Pitt's overacting made Troy a great unintentional comedy
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:42 pm to Rittdog)
Probably had something to do with this guy.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:42 pm to Rittdog)
I like Troy...
I like Gladiator more but I like Troy.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:43 pm to Celery)
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I've never been a fan of Troy. I don't know why. Maybe because Troy leans toward fantasy with Gladiator being more believable.
Yeah this is kind of what I meant. Gladiator packed a punch that Troy just didn't. Troy aimed more to please your senses. It was big and beautiful. Gladiator was gritty and dramatic.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:45 pm to Rittdog)
Expectations
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:46 pm to Rittdog)
I liked Troy a lot
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:48 pm to Celery)
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Maybe because Troy leans toward fantasy with Gladiator being more believable.
:facepalm:
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:49 pm to Rittdog)
I really liked Troy
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:49 pm to beaverfever)
Troy was too shiny and clean. There's nothing wrong with Pitt that I can put into words, except he just didn't have "it" for Achilles. Gladiator had blood and sweat and violence and it did seem more real. Yeah, Troy needed grit.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:49 pm to Rittdog)
I enjoy Troy more than Gladiator.
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:51 pm to Rittdog)
it pissed off certain critics due to how it handled the source material (which is bullshite)
it was kind of hokey and pitt was not good in it. bana was excellent as usual, though
to an extent, achilles doesn't translate to modern society. he really was a whiney fricking bitch in the illiad. the attack on his honor doesn't translate to modern society, imho.
the production values/cinematography weren't as high as gladiator. i can give troy a pass somewhat because a typhoon completely wrecked their original locations/settings
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:52 pm to Rittdog)
troy was good imo. not on gladiator's level though. contrary to a lot of people on the board gladiator is one of my all time favs
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| re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt? (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:56 pm to Fearthehat0307)
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gladiator is one of my all time favs
kige the frick out of this
Also maybe Troys problem is Achilles is an unlikeable character. I mean I was pissed when he died only because Paris was the one who killed him and he sucked ass.
I mean I knew what was going to happen because of the actual mythology but they didn't have to make both of them such bitches
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