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DeathValley85 
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:41 am to THRILLHO)
quite long / read it all
Great write up. We should be able to make a few good moves, but nothing huge. I like our chances with Loomis.
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WicKed WayZ 
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Meridian, MS
Member since Sep 2011
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:55 am to DeathValley85)
I think we should draft Dion Jordan, dude is an Aldon Smith Clone.
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afatgreekcat
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Acworth, GA
Member since Jan 2013
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/26/13 at 12:00 pm to THRILLHO)
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ETA: Pray Graham doesn't hold out.
I don't think he will. Players have to at least somewhat understand the cap.. we do not have the money to give him a big contract now. He'd be better off just living with it until next season.
Just curious, how is our cap space (currently) looking for NEXT offseason? Does it look like we might have the money to pay Graham?
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
Member since Sep 2007
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/26/13 at 1:18 pm to THRILLHO)
good job as usual Thrill, thanks for the effort. We get endless suggestions of signing free agent X or Y but no one ever addresses the cap implications or how can you make such an idea work (if at all).
If there is one thing Loomis is good at is cap management. He regularly surprises us with what rabbits he can pull out of the cap hat. Last year might have been his best for what was accomplished with what cap space was available. Definitely a step up in challenge this year. I might expect one moderate starter/impact type player signed somehow. Beyond that I expect no more than fillers.
That said, there could be some short term fillers for not bank breaking money (like Reed mentioned). Richard Seymour and Shaun Phillips are two of the best looking targets to me. Guys that still have some game left that are looking for one last ride with a championship contending team.
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THRILLHO
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:32 pm to afatgreekcat)
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Just curious, how is our cap space (currently) looking for NEXT offseason? Does it look like we might have the money to pay Graham?
I'm not even going to try to figure out where we're at for next season. But the franchise tag for TE's is only $6m this year, and may drop a little by next year with Gonzo's retirement. We'll be able to keep him, but I don't know how happy he'll be with the handling of it.
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adono
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River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
5169 posts
| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:15 am to coldhotwings)
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This staff is more known for finding gems in the mid to late rounds and from the UDFA pool. Their first round assessment has been very underwhelming.
That's a fact!!!
I'd be OK with them trading the 1st rounder for a few mid round picks. With Brees eating up so much cap space, this team will have to so young and/or old just to get under the cap.
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
Member since Sep 2007
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:50 am to adono)
Hope to see more threads like this have some life
There's a lotta guys with a lotta football knowledge around here. Unfortunately it is a small percentage that have more than a cursory understanding or idea of the cap and how it stands with our team. I'd say a Madden mentality is more common. Overall and continued team success is as dependent on good cap management as on the field performance.
I use this standard... How does the player's performance match to his cap number? Is he earning his pay? Is he overpaid or is he a value?
Maybe another good thread idea...
Grade each player in a ratio of performance to salary cap hit.
Example: (skill players are easier to quantify)
Colston 83 catches, 1154yds, 10TDS
@ $3.3million (and doubles to $6.6 in '13)
Graham 85 catches, 982yds, 9 TDs
@ $706,286
Almost identical production but measured against their cap numbers would be-
Colston $39759 per catch (almost $80K per catch next year)
Graham $8310 per catch
Those kinda players are what amke championships
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goatmilker
New Orleans Saints Fan
Proudville USA
Member since Feb 2009
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:26 am to THRILLHO)
Nice read Thrill 
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High C
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:36 am to goatmilker)
I'm with the trade out of the first for more picks group. Unless the staff sees what they perceive to be a game-changer at 15, I think it only makes sense.
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Where we are with the cap and how we can free up space to make a few moves: (Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:06 pm to High C)
A game changer CAN be had at #15
It's a matter of who is there and which one you pick. They possibly could have to choose between Dion Jordan, Sam Montgomery, Ansah, Mingo, and or several big NTs.
Some #14-16s the past few years-
Earl Thomas
Darelle Revis
Tommy Harris
Shockey
Eddie George
Bruce Irvin
Mike Pouncey
Jason Pierre-Paul
Brian Cushing
Branden Albert
Lawrence Timmons
Albert Haynesworth
Ryan Kerrigan
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
Troy Polamalu
Jevon Kearse
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