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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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nline communication is a poor method of communicating feeling and emotion IMO.
i disagree. most people are more open online. i think it's due to people being socially trained to present a fake persona in public
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:28 pm to NC_Tigah)
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if you over look the impact of out of wedlock births.
but teen pregnancies are declining
single parent households are an issue of economics/government, not morality
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RogerTheShrubber 
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:29 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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i disagree. most people are more open online. i think it's due to people being socially trained to present a fake persona in public
Eh, I think you get much more of a fake persona online. People may be more honest about their feelings, but not about who they are.
It's a poor method of communication because it leaves out verbal cues, voice inflection...etc. Communication is so much more than words.
The benefits probably outweigh the negatives but doesn't have the full effect of face to face interaction.
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TigerJeff
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:30 pm to 228Tiger)
agree
Case in point: ABC "Family" TV -- I mean, I see ABC "Family" and I'm thinking they'll be showing Sound of Music, Wizard of Oz, but it's garbage, high school sex, etc. Yet they feel the need to run a disclaimer that the "700 Club" does not reflect their views ..... we live in a fricked up upside down world where abortion is viewed as a good thing. We are fricked.
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Bunk Moreland 
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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It's a poor method of communication because it leaves out verbal cues, voice inflection...etc. Communication is so much more than words.
Nothing beats face to face.
BUT, I would rather text a chick than talk to her, especially if I'm just meeting her or it's otherwise early in the relationship.
This post was edited on 1/26 at 9:32 pm
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228Tiger
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:32 pm to HempHead)
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General Effects of the Single-Parent Household It has been found through varied research that children in single-parent homes generally fare worse than those homes with two parents. Statistically, in the United States, family structure does contribute to certain characteristics of a child's well being. For example, there is a prevalence of lower birthrates and higher death rates among infants when there is just one parent. Also, the number of children ages 15-17 in school and in good health is much lower in this group of children, and the number of children becoming pregnant at these ages is increasing. There are also signs that children who have gone through a divorce may have problems with depression, emotional stress, and difficulties in school. It has been found that adolescents from single-parent families were found to be three times more likely to be depressed than those living with two parents. Single parent homes are also associated with criminal activity in the U.S.A. Children from a single-parent household account for 72% of teenage murderers, 60% percent of people who commit rape crimes and are eleven times more likely to exhibit violent behavior. These statistics are astounding and the problems that accompany single-parenthood appear volatile.
Statistics on single parents
I guess I am just alluding to the fact that the value of a traditional marriage and the positive impact it has on the child going forward has deteriorated. Whether this is through poor decisions or unfortunate circumstances is something i don't know on an individual bases, but the numbers don't lie.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:34 pm to 228Tiger)
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I guess I am just alluding to the fact that the value of a traditional marriage and the positive impact it has on the child going forward has deteriorated.
single parent households have increased while violent crime has decreased 
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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but teen pregnancies are declining
out of wedlock births are at all time highs. Once unacceptable, they are now commonplace. Murphy Brown. Remember? And it epitomizes "trashy American culture". The economic issue is a result, not a cause.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:34 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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BUT, I would rather text a chick than talk to her, especially if I'm just meeting her or it's otherwise early in the relationship.
Yeah online communication has it's place. It's an able substitute in a pinch.
Don't get me wrong, this stuff is awesome in a sense but falls short of face to face.
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228Tiger
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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ingle parent households are an issue of economics/government, not morality
Right. The unimaginable state of poverty that people live in is to blame for children being born to single mothers..bad decisions has NOTHING to do with it 
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:34 pm to 228Tiger)
and they all laughed at Dan Quayle.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:36 pm to NC_Tigah)
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Once unacceptable, they are now commonplace.
due to government, not morality. a lot of these scenarios do have a husband-dad figure but marriage doesn't occur for benefits
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The economic issue is a result, not a cause.
remove welfare and medicaid and you'll see a huge drop in "out of wedlock" births
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Lsupimp
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:36 pm to SlowFlowPro)
I like you SFP, but you really can't argue that you aren't a moral idiot. I mean your post count alone, confers a kind of Carny-freak-show status upon you. Not to mention your relentless vapidity on this thread.
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228Tiger
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:36 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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while violent crime has decreased
that's great...not being sarcastic, that really is
but what does that have to do with the rates of children from single parent homes when it comes to school,etc?
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228Tiger
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:36 pm to SlowFlowPro)
dammit double post
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Lsupimp
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:37 pm to SlowFlowPro)
"Openess about sex" is just an empty phrase.I guess in your mind "open" is a vague word that can mean anything you want, and "closed" is like a crown you can place on the head of those you can't honestly debate. One can be honest about human sexuality and enjoy shagging one's wife, without celebrating the cultural inanity that is American Porn.It is possible to object to it for reasons of general INTELLIGENCE, and not just moral outrage (I have none), but I'm sure that has escaped you. It is the essence of lowest-common-denominator, and it's popularity doesn't magically confer some kind of Wisdom upon it, any more than execution films or scat films or anything else that titalates human psychology. It doesn't "outrage" me-it BORES me. And there we have the crux of this thread, which is that American Culture has strangely and inexplicably elevated the Profane to the Sacred and relegated the Sacred to the Profane. The most elementary, basest human function is intertwined with American Celebrity Culture and inexplicably intertwined with some level of cultural profundity. Which in itself, is just pathetic.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:37 pm to 228Tiger)
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.bad decisions has NOTHING to do with it
bad governmental policy subsidizes bad decision making and gaming the system to take advantage of that system
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:37 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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bad governmental policy subsidizes bad decision making and gaming the system to take advantage of that system
Indeed.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:38 pm to 228Tiger)
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but what does that have to do with the rates of children from single parent homes when it comes to school,etc?
well if they're getting pregnant as teens at a decreasing rate and killing people at a decreasing rate, then the actual results aren't this unbelievably horrible reality like you're presenting
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TigerJeff
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| re: Our increasingly trashy American culture (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:38 pm to NC_Tigah)
As late as the 60s and 70s, when a girl got pregnant out of wedlock it was not something to be proud of -- I mean, her family would support her obviously, not throw her on the street, but it wasn't celebrated as it is today, ie., a 16 yo girl gets pregnant and they're throwing baby showers for her and gushing on Facebook about it like it's something to be proud of.
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