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geauxbrown  LSU Fan South Carolina Member since Oct 2006 1602 posts

| Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:22 pm)
Went to work yesterday morning and noticed a long line of black folks at the local grocery store. Home for lunch and the line was about the same. Home after work and it looked to be about half. 16T in debt and we're giving away free phones. God help us.
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ljhog  Arkansas Fan Lake Jackson, Tx. Member since Apr 2009 8882 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:23 pm to geauxbrown)
so they can call the police to report criminal activity
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Powerman  LSU Fan Corpus Christi, TX Member since Jan 2004 115791 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:31 pm to geauxbrown)
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16T in debt and we're giving away free phones.
Is this a federal expenditure? If not, then what does the national debt have to do with it?
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geauxbrown  LSU Fan South Carolina Member since Oct 2006 1602 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:45 pm to Powerman)
Where does the money come from to pay for them?
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44021 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:47 pm to Powerman)
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Is this a federal expenditure?
Yes. There is a federal tax on our phone bills that pays for this service. Where do you think the money comes from if not the Feds taxing the public?
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TheFolker  Kentucky Fan Member since Aug 2011 1920 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:02 pm to geauxbrown)
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Where does the money come from to pay for them?
Your cellphone bill. Look for something called a "lifeline surcharge". You're paying for those phones though your phone bill, not through taxes.
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44021 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:13 pm to TheFolker)
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You're paying for those phones though your phone bill, not through taxes.
WTF It is a tax that is placed on using a phone and the phone company collects it for the government. A use tax is a tax.
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CajunAngele  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2012 5259 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:21 pm to TheFolker)
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Where does the money come from to pay for them? Your cellphone bill. Look for something called a "lifeline surcharge". You're paying for those phones though your phone bill, not through taxes.
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Who gets rich off 'free' government phones The real story behind free 'Obama phones' NEW YORK (CNNMoney) One of America's fastest-growing wireless carriers is a company you've probably never heard of: Tracfone Wireless. It's the U.S. arm of a telecom empire controlled by the world's richest man, Carlos Slim, and it's the biggest player in an increasingly lucrative market: subsidized mobile phones for low-income Americans. The subsidy became a political flashpoint recently thanks to an incendiary YouTube video featuring a Cleveland resident praising her free "Obama phone." Hype from the Drudge Report and conservative ringleaders like Rush Limbaugh propelled the video to nearly 5 million pageviews. The real story behind the phones is more nuanced than the 45-second clip. The subsidy is from a government-created program called Lifeline, which is paid for by customer fees on most phone bills. The program is overseen by the Federal Communications Commission, and has its roots in a universal access initiative that began in 1985, during Ronald Reagan's administration. Here's how it works: If you're eligible for other forms of government assistance like Medicaid or food stamps (the rules differ by state), then you qualify to receive a $9.25 per month phone subsidy. Participating wireless companies will typically offer a free phone (paid for by the company), with an allotment of Lifeline minutes each month. Lifeline subscribers can collect only one monthly subsidy, for either a landline or a wireless phone. Around 75% of them have chosen to go wireless. Where does the money for Lifeline subsidy come from? You. Take a look at your phone bill and you'll see a charge -- typically a few dollars a month -- for payments to the "Universal Service Fund." That's the umbrella program covering various ventures, including Lifeline, that are designed to make telephone communications universally available to all Americans. The government requires most telecoms to pay into the fund. The carriers then typically pass the costs on to their customers as a monthly surcharge. Last year, Lifeline accounted for 20% of the $8.1 billion Universal Service Fund distributed to support connections for rural areas, schools, hospitals and low-income individuals. There are 17 million households currently signed up for the program, up from under 7 million just four years ago.
I just don't get why people were lined up at a grocery store to get them? 
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44021 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:31 pm to CajunAngele)
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I just don't get why people were lined up at a grocery store to get them?
It is called marketing. I drive through the heart of darkness in NO just about every day and 2 or 3 times a week I see the tents set up around the neighborhoods. Generally next to a store to catch the foot traffic. You see the dysfunctionals talking on a phone waiting to sign up for another phone.
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bunky  LSU Fan FREE EL GUACHO Member since Jul 2011 4363 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:42 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
What are the qualifications of getting these phones? Because...frick paying $200 a month.
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CajunAngele  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2012 5259 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:48 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
So someone signs up for food stamps and welfare.They get the Obamaphone.The social services tells them go to Piggly Wiggly and get the phones? Then said government pays them 9 bucks a month for the service? Landmine or cellular? Can you get a landline unlimited talk? Is it a track phone with enough minutes to call Shawanda or Becky Rae Sue, once a month to come pick you up once a month to get lobsters and steaks?
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CajunAngele  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2012 5259 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:50 pm to bunky)
I am right there with ya bud dy! I checked just now. In NC you have to make less than $350 a week.
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nobodytooimportant Member since Oct 2012 657 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:16 pm to bunky)
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What are the qualifications of getting these phones? Because...frick paying $200 a month.
You sign up for a two year contract and you can get a free crappy phone. Oh wait, that is the what anyone can do through pretty much any mobile carrier. As to this program, as quoted by Cajun Angele above, if you qualify you receive a whopping 9.25 off your bill every month. LINK Go ahead and do that, it is totally worth it. (you could also switch to a plan with low minutes and a lot of data and use a google voice number and probably save a lot more)
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geauxbrown  LSU Fan South Carolina Member since Oct 2006 1602 posts

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Now folks are boycotting the local grocery store that allowed them to give the phones away in their parking lot. This gonna be good.
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R2Z2 Member since Dec 2012 115 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:04 am to geauxbrown)
They kept Obama in President. They gots Obama phone! From his stash.
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TigerintheNO  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Jan 2004 18981 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:08 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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I drive through the heart of darkness in NO just about every day and 2 or 3 times a week I see the tents set up around the neighborhoods. Generally next to a store to catch the foot traffic. You see the dysfunctionals talking on a phone waiting to sign up for another phone.
Saw that New Year's eve in the Church's parking lot right off of Carrolton. Lots of teenagers in line.
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Drank Detroit Mercy Fan Member since Dec 2012 396 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:25 am to geauxbrown)
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Where does the money come from to pay for them?
from bomma's stash...he pay fo my gasses and my rint too 
This post was edited on 1/26 at 11:26 am
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wolfgang  Southern Cal Fan Baton Rouge and Los Angeles Member since Jan 2007 1876 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:47 am to geauxbrown)
They are wedded to the phone. Remember the pay phone. shite you could'nt get to one for the minorities in line .
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PsychTiger  LSU Fan Land Mass Member since Jul 2004 15971 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 12:04 pm to wolfgang)
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They are wedded to the phone. Remember the pay phone. shite you could'nt get to one for the minorities in line .
That reminds me of The Wire.
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tigernchicago  LSU Fan Illinois Member since Sep 2003 3833 posts

| re: Free Phones in Carolina (Posted on 1/26/13 at 12:10 pm to TheFolker)
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Your cellphone bill. Look for something called a "lifeline surcharge". You're paying for those phones though your phone bill, not through taxes.
Do you think your cell phoe carrier is doing this of their own volition? I can assure thatthe Federal Government has forced this to happen. How can you possibly believe otherwise....
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